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Post  cavemandom on Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:48 pm

Which lures do i use this time of year???

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  noodle on Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:53 pm

depends

depth
water clarity
casting weight
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  cavemandom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:19 pm

I usually fish the local canals, Montgomery Llangollen, the water is very murky, depth usual canal depth 4 - 6 foot a little shallower in the margins, I have a variety of lures spinners right across the board , I also have two rods , 10 grms - 45grms and a 50grm -100grm rod

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  noodle on Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:55 pm

ok so what do you have so far, lure wise?

the stuff i use for that depth are things like magnum long a's mb pb gliders ace sweet shads big inline spinners
all in the couple of ounce range so your rod rated to 100 gm will throw those

at the lighter end the micro jerks from fox if you can any,a few smaller cranks etc
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Andy Webster on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:53 pm

cavemandom wrote:Which lures do i use this time of year???

Your question suggests that there might be abetter type of lure in spring. I would use the same lures all year round. jerks, spinnerbaits, spoons. If the pike are about you'll catch them, as long as you don't spook them.

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  greg on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:44 pm

Andy Webster wrote:
cavemandom wrote:Which lures do i use this time of year???

Your question suggests that there might be abetter type of lure in spring. I would use the same lures all year round. jerks, spinnerbaits, spoons. If the pike are about you'll catch them, as long as you don't spook them.

Andy


in a few weeks time you should be catching them on topwater lures..... Very Happy
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  cavemandom on Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:56 pm

I had a salmo fatboy until about 2hrs ago, i got snagged and lost it, the other lures I use are things like rapala suspended chub creek pike heddon tadpolis a few props shakespears big s original and small s i have fox's devils own heddons a few mid spinner baits yellow skirt red skirt, mepps no 4 gold n silver salmo boxer, i have bought mixed lots from ebay, i'v tried wieghting poppers jitterbug, i'v put controller bungs on heavy jointed jerks, nothin for at least 5-6 sessions

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Post  greg on Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:16 pm

cavemandom wrote:I had a salmo fatboy until about 2hrs ago, i got snagged and lost it, the other lures I use are things like rapala suspended chub creek pike heddon tadpolis a few props shakespears big s original and small s i have fox's devils own heddons a few mid spinner baits yellow skirt red skirt, mepps no 4 gold n silver salmo boxer, i have bought mixed lots from ebay, i'v tried wieghting poppers jitterbug, i'v put controller bungs on heavy jointed jerks, nothin for at least 5-6 sessions


try another water, or golf Very Happy
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Post  cavemandom on Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:41 pm

I'm really new at lure fishing I started last September and got hooked I've read books watched dvd's trolled the web for information on techniques , i think it is the waters I'm fishing but saying that i was very successful last Autumn, i know Autumn is the best time to fish for pike, is it worth having a try on the local rivers the Severn the Dee the Vrnwy, can i still use lures or am i better off using spoons bars n spinner baits????

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  cavemandom on Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:47 pm

Greg what do you mean when you say dont spook them, explain the correct way or your way to approach the water and the do's and dont's of when your actually fishing, I know most of it is common sense but hearing it from someone else will give me the confidence to adapt or fine tune my technique...

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  greg on Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:26 pm

cavemandom wrote:Greg what do you mean when you say dont spook them, explain the correct way or your way to approach the water and the do's and dont's of when your actually fishing, I know most of it is common sense but hearing it from someone else will give me the confidence to adapt or fine tune my technique...


it wizni me Shocked . it was andy (the boss) that said that Smile
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Andy Webster on Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:32 pm

Andy Webster wrote:If the pike are about you'll catch them, as long as you don't spook them.

Andy

In my own experience I have found that constantly moving about, perhaps walking from one swim to another on a lake or slowly walking along a canal, is not very productive. The only takes I have had whilst moving happen as soon as the lure hits the water. This is probably because the lure has landed on its nose and its instinct has taken over.

I am far more productive when I stay in one place and just sit or stand still for anything up to 15 minutes. I will cast around the swim but most importantly I am not moving. This could be because the pike has relaxed a little after it was initially made aware of my presence when I arrived by either my movement or footfalls.

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Bazz on Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:56 pm

One of the members on here has a lot of success with smallish shads. They are fairly light (3" long), sink to the right kind of depth & the Pike tend to grab them & not let go. Ideal for a smaller water or river. He caught a 14 on one recently. Very Happy Wink

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Lefty on Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:03 am

Bazz wrote:One of the members on here has a lot of success with smallish shads. They are fairly light (3" long), sink to the right kind of depth & the Pike tend to grab them & not let go. Ideal for a smaller water or river. He caught a 14 on one recently. Very Happy Wink

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Can we have foto's and info on the lures please. What a Face
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  noodle on Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:14 pm

for smaller shads, you will struggle to beat the kyopto ones great on a finesse jig something like 1/16th of an ounce
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  robh107 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:04 pm

Andy Webster wrote:
Andy Webster wrote:If the pike are about you'll catch them, as long as you don't spook them.

Andy

In my own experience I have found that constantly moving about, perhaps walking from one swim to another on a lake or slowly walking along a canal, is not very productive. The only takes I have had whilst moving happen as soon as the lure hits the water. This is probably because the lure has landed on its nose and its instinct has taken over.

I am far more productive when I stay in one place and just sit or stand still for anything up to 15 minutes. I will cast around the swim but most importantly I am not moving. This could be because the pike has relaxed a little after it was initially made aware of my presence when I arrived by either my movement or footfalls.

Softly softly, slowly slowly, catchy monkey Very Happy

Andy

can i just add to that and say that it really helps if you step REALLY LIGHTLY.... i spend most of my works dinnerbreaks watching pike on a beck right outside the place and can honestly say that in the last week or so i've been within touching distance of fish to mid doubles, just by moving slowly and silently you can quite literally stand within a rod length and pick out your target fish!!
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Andy Macfarlane on Sat May 01, 2010 2:37 pm

Andy Webster wrote:
Andy Webster wrote:If the pike are about you'll catch them, as long as you don't spook them.

Andy

In my own experience I have found that constantly moving about, perhaps walking from one swim to another on a lake or slowly walking along a canal, is not very productive. The only takes I have had whilst moving happen as soon as the lure hits the water. This is probably because the lure has landed on its nose and its instinct has taken over.

I am far more productive when I stay in one place and just sit or stand still for anything up to 15 minutes. I will cast around the swim but most importantly I am not moving. This could be because the pike has relaxed a little after it was initially made aware of my presence when I arrived by either my movement or footfalls.

Softly softly, slowly slowly, catchy monkey Very Happy

Andy

Funny that. I always move about but I do try to behave like some kind of Apache on the hunt. I've seen myself crawling into certain swims because any noise or even a shadow is enough to move the fish. Once I'm there though, I'm not for giving any swim more than say, 20 casts and that's it. If I don't see a fish or any sign that there are fish there, I'll move. I don't see the point in flogging a dead horse. I also don't see the point in creeping deftly up to a swim just to stand there and thrash the surface to foam and leave the swim looking like it's been strimmed. That's making a din no matter how you dress it up.

That said, I often find some pike just don't give a damn how much noise you make. I've waded into swims and turned round to cast in the wake I've just created and caught fish moving back to their 'lie' or whatever it's called. I only tried this because I once saw a pike move out of my road when I was wading, only to glide back into it's rest position as soon as I was 4-5 feet beyond it. Cautious?...yes but spooked?...certainly not.

I've also caught pike minutes after banging banksticks in with a hatchet. You'd imagine that would spook everything for miles but apparently not. I think of it this way. A decent pike is the apex predator in the water. It doesn't have much to be fearful of and you, the angler are positively clumsy looking and the fish probably knows it too. Anything that can get up to 30mph in 6 feet of water has little to be concerned about, unless it's been banked a few times.
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  cavemandom on Wed May 19, 2010 11:35 am

I'v spent a good 200 on lures since i started on the lure last sept, jelly's, spinners, bars, surface lures, shallow divers, suspending deep divers ,jerk baits, crank baits, hybrids, I've spiced up lures, weighted surface lures, I've made cork bungs to search all the levels of depth with heavy lures the lot, but my last 8-10 session's i'v had nothing on the bank, i'v had a real bad run, decided to go to the canal last nite for a bit of simple coarse fishing, double red maggot, had a few decent roach then it went quite, was bringing my bait in to change to corn bang snagged, it felt like i'd hooked an old wellington, just going to break the surface with this welly and crash big thrash and it was on it's tail i nearly jumped out my skin it frightened me to death and low and behold a 6 jack had taken double red maggot on the retrieve, un-ber-fffing-lievable but well welcomed, hope thats brought an end to my blank run, it's inserted that bit of confidence that was slowly dwindling even though it was unintentional, if someone would of given me the choice of choosing whether the wellington was going to be the titanic or a pike i would of taken the titanic.........

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Lefty on Thu May 20, 2010 10:49 am

Just the other week I had a similar experience, cavemandom.

I knew there was a pike patrolling as I nearly had my fingers bitten as I let go of a roach when putting it back. 5 more snaffled fish later and I was reeling in a small perch when BANG! fish on Very Happy

My first pike for just over 12 months and I didn't want to lose it. I slackened off the clutch and got a spectacular fight from it including tail walking.

It was landed and a quick photo before putting it back a couple of pegs away. My swim was now ruined what with all the commotion but I didn't care, I had a pike. The first one in ages and I was over the moon.

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  cavemandom on Sat May 22, 2010 11:05 am

now the "well pleased" factor has worn off I still feel like i'm in the middle of this bad run, if i was intentionally fishing on the lure for a pike then yea bingo bad run over, what has happened is, It's given me the confidence back in the water, I'v always known pike where in the water, i'v sat down gone through my lures picked the books back up worked out a strategy and it's made me think about being disciplined and stick with the strategy, when i know without a question i followed everything to the last detail try something else, i'm looking at moon phases at the minute, i'm going to plan some sessions around new moons full moons, anything too give me that extra edge....

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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Andy Macfarlane on Sun May 23, 2010 11:10 pm

Try not to take too many lures or you're just punishing yourself. Take 5 or 6 lures that are completely different.

Like...

1 Topwater
1 Spinnerbait or Bucktail
1 Spoon
1 Glidebait
1 Jig or Shad
1 Crankbait

Take a small sample of lures and then try to get as many different actions and speeds out of each as possible. Learn to use the lures themselves. Don't imagine that there's one lure that will sort all your woes. It rarely happens like that.

By only taking a small sample of lures, you're also giving each one a fair run to prove itself. It's easy to put a lure away because you've lost faith in it or it didn't produce like you imagined it might on it's first outing.

Take the spoon. That can fished on a straight retrieve, jigged, stopped and started, fished at almost any depth, ripped, swept and stalled.....it's not just a case of casting it and winding it.

That goes for a lot of lures. You have to inject life into them and that doesn't always mean randomly stroking the tip. Concentrate on the job and try to make it happen.

You'll catch more fish if you're confident and you believe it. If it becomes repetitive and monotonous, it'll show at the lure end.
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  paddy pike on Mon May 24, 2010 12:42 pm

Very Happy Andy Very Happy you said in your previous post that you like to stalk the pike Cool , We all do this i think Shocked , But when you get a Pike after banging in bank sticks with your hatchet Razz , This is very common Laughing , If i go to a big water resavoir Very Happy , I will pick a place in about 4 feet of water, A good way to the side of me and every now and then i will throw a stone in, Shocked Just like when i was a nipper, Try skimming them, Shocked Then when i have finished fishing the swim i am in, Very Happy Then i will lure fish where i have been throwing the stones, Cool And 9 times out of 10 it will produce a Pike Razz , Its known as the Dinner Bell Effect, Very Happy And i am a great believer in this, Could be i am just jammy Shocked , But i think its more the Pike are interested in splashing sound of the water surface being broken Rolling Eyes , As are carp and a good few others,
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  Andy Macfarlane on Mon May 24, 2010 1:52 pm

I know what it's called BUT just because you have had days where you caught making a din, as have I, how many days did you blank making a din?

If that's the case, is it not a better idea to be quiet then? No contest. Quiet will bring far more fish in the long run and you probably know it.

That's why we all go stalking. It's the correct thing to do.
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Mon May 24, 2010 1:57 pm

cavemandom wrote:now the "well pleased" factor has worn off I still feel like i'm in the middle of this bad run, if i was intentionally fishing on the lure for a pike then yea bingo bad run over, what has happened is, It's given me the confidence back in the water, I'v always known pike where in the water, i'v sat down gone through my lures picked the books back up worked out a strategy and it's made me think about being disciplined and stick with the strategy, when i know without a question i followed everything to the last detail try something else, i'm looking at moon phases at the minute, i'm going to plan some sessions around new moons full moons, anything too give me that extra edge....

Try honing your skills as a lure angler instead of looking for outside influences that will increase you catch ratio. I've give you some ideas. Try those before you start howling at the moon.
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Re: Spring lure fishing

Post  greg on Mon May 24, 2010 8:43 pm

what kind of tips would you give for trawling lures andy, its dire aff the boat just now.
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