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Re: dead bait dilema
Where do all you sardine addicts place the hooks in the bait?
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Re: dead bait dilema
Andy Webster wrote:Where do all you sardine addicts place the hooks in the bait?
One in the tail-root, in line with the latral line, right through the spine and one in the hard gristly part at the front of the dorsal fin....or one of the pectoral or anal fins. I find the flank is far too soft to hold a hook properly, if the sardine is defrosted.
That's why I go to great pains to keep my baits frozen on the bank. I hate fiddling about with elastic, casting clips (or similar methods) or looking for the ideal hooking position.
Frozen bait??....no problems....
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
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Re: dead bait dilema
make a trace with 1 large single and 1 treble, large single through root of sardine treble in flank
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MAD BAD ANGLER- Posts : 1587
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Re: dead bait dilema
Years ago we used to get balsa rods, As you probably know it a very boyant light wood, You would cut these to the size of the sardine, Then tie a piece of wire to it and insert it into the sardine, Then when you put your trebles into the fish you push them through the balsa wood, But the drawback is, You have to strike very quick so the Pike does not swollow the bait, if you were unlucky and it did, Then the wire you had put to the balsa was used to extract the bait from the Pike, Or at least the balsa woodAndy Macfarlane wrote:Andy Webster wrote:Where do all you sardine addicts place the hooks in the bait?
One in the tail-root, in line with the latral line, right through the spine and one in the hard gristly part at the front of the dorsal fin....or one of the pectoral or anal fins. I find the flank is far too soft to hold a hook properly, if the sardine is defrosted.
That's why I go to great pains to keep my baits frozen on the bank. I hate fiddling about with elastic, casting clips (or similar methods) or looking for the ideal hooking position.
Frozen bait??....no problems....
Re: dead bait dilema
The few Pike I had this season were ALL caught on Lamprey. Not really tried Trout but I shall do..
The Pike at the Cellars fish-in seemed only to feed on Rainbow Trout (Upper class Pike lol ).
The Pike at the Cellars fish-in seemed only to feed on Rainbow Trout (Upper class Pike lol ).
Bazz- Posts : 1184
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Re: dead bait dilema
My second favourite bait BazzBazz wrote:The few Pike I had this season were ALL caught on Lamprey. Not really tried Trout but I shall do..
The Pike at the Cellars fish-in seemed only to feed on Rainbow Trout (Upper class Pike lol ).
Re: dead bait dilema
going back to lamprey had alot of missed runs on it suspect there not pike probably perch or eels any thoughts on that
stubbo- Posts : 3976
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Re: dead bait dilema
i'd say they're more than likely perch mate... never known an eel to take a piece of lamprey
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trout are 1st choice on waters that contain them less so on none trout waters though they can have a novelty value lol
essox_lucius1- Posts : 135
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Re: dead bait dilema
funny you should say that the lake i fish in wales this guy was fishing lamprey section about 3 inch he caught a big eel must have been knocking 5lb i kid you not...........he was after pike..robh107 wrote:i'd say they're more than likely perch mate... never known an eel to take a piece of lamprey
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Re: dead bait dilema
i think an eel will have a peck at most baits caught them on single maggot under the float after roach quite a opportunists them eels
stubbo- Posts : 3976
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Re: dead bait dilema
Dont forget though that Lamprey used to be a good Conger bait when sea fishing Used it a lot years ago around the Isle of Manstubbo wrote:i think an eel will have a peck at most baits caught them on single maggot under the float after roach quite a opportunists them eels
Re: dead bait dilema
caught a good gonger at bull bay few years back it had a 2lb wrasse inside it pluss the chummy that i groundbaited with ......chopped makerallpaddy pike wrote:Dont forget though that Lamprey used to be a good Conger bait when sea fishing Used it a lot years ago around the Isle of Manstubbo wrote:i think an eel will have a peck at most baits caught them on single maggot under the float after roach quite a opportunists them eels
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Re: dead bait dilema
Great fishing going for Conger, Bull bay was a top conger spot years ago, A few lads who were on "Cast and catch Forum" used to love it there,stubbo wrote:caught a good gonger at bull bay few years back it had a 2lb wrasse inside it pluss the chummy that i groundbaited with ......chopped makerallpaddy pike wrote:Dont forget though that Lamprey used to be a good Conger bait when sea fishing Used it a lot years ago around the Isle of Manstubbo wrote:i think an eel will have a peck at most baits caught them on single maggot under the float after roach quite a opportunists them eels
Re: dead bait dilema
good mark for conger and pollock close in to the cliff face but the rats are a problem dont put your buttys down
stubbo- Posts : 3976
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my biggest eel came to lamprey as did my 2nd biggest both big fish and both took bait properlystubbo wrote:funny you should say that the lake i fish in wales this guy was fishing lamprey section about 3 inch he caught a big eel must have been knocking 5lb i kid you not...........he was after pike..robh107 wrote:i'd say they're more than likely perch mate... never known an eel to take a piece of lamprey
essox_lucius1- Posts : 135
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Re: dead bait dilema
robh107 wrote:never known an eel to take a piece of lamprey
Agreed. It rarely happens in my experience also Rob.
I would say the most common bait that least likely to attract the attentions of eels, is eel itself.
First thing I go for (if I have it) when eels are becoming a nuisance.
That said, I think the time has come when we should be refraining from using eels. Even though they're still very common round my neck of the woods, I know they're very much on the decline round various parts of the UK, so even though the reduction of eels doesn't affect me directly, I think all should be done to save the species.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
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i have not caught an eel localy for 2 yrs even a lake that was stuffed with them is producing none or atleast none 2 me
essox_lucius1- Posts : 135
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Re: dead bait dilema
Never liked handling eels myself, but have noticed a decline in people saying they've caught them. Didn't personally catch one for years until last year, and that was the only one I know of apart from gavin1928 catching one the same time I caught my first chub (also last year).
Lefty- Posts : 1297
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Re: dead bait dilema
90% of my big pike on dead baits have fallen to either roach or herring couldnt pick one to be honest
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Re: dead bait dilema
I had been groundbaiting with chopped crayfish tails, then i have been dropping the odd free Smelt into the same swim, As all free offerings help the Pike get confidence, Then as it happens it has paid dividends, So far this season i have had some good Pike, And 15.8Lb being the best of the three ive caught,esox lee wrote:90% of my big pike on dead baits have fallen to either roach or herring couldnt pick one to be honest
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Re: dead bait dilema
paddy pike wrote:I had been groundbaiting with chopped crayfish tails, then i have been dropping the odd free Smelt into the same swim, As all free offerings help the Pike get confidence, Then as it happens it has paid dividends, So far this season i have had some good Pike, And 15.8Lb being the best of the three ive caught,esox lee wrote:90% of my big pike on dead baits have fallen to either roach or herring couldnt pick one to be honest
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it's very rare i get the bait rods out these days, but i have read a few articles over the last year or two about chunking for pike and it seem to be very productive.
i'm planning a trip to watermark fisheries for a week towards the end of the summer so i might give it a go, but a week is a long time to keep baits so im looking at buying a 24v coolbox and making mods to run of a 900ah battery.
i figure a 900ah battery should be enough to run a coolbox lamp and ipod for a week
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Re: dead bait dilema
its nice to ch uck a bait out sometimes just to slow it down abit dont you think
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