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Post  noodle on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:24 pm

go on would you/ have you eaten coarse fish

ill start

carp
pike
perch
roach
gudgeon (where the term gougon (pardon the spelling) came form)
eel
ide (i think)
barbel

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Post  MrMakk on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:29 pm

noodle wrote:go on would you/ have you eaten coarse fish

ill start

carp
pike
perch
roach
gudgeon (where the term gougon (pardon the spelling) came form)
eel
ide (i think)
barbel


neither of the above,

Although i have eaten
Trout(Brown and Rainbow)
and crayfish.

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Post  noodle on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:56 pm

should have added those fish with silly adipoise fins

still freshwater fish

oh missed grayling off as well

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Post  bull on Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:45 pm

pike not bad but is boney, perch tastes nice when cooked in oil and garlic butter pan fryed but make sure your pan is hot, has with most coarse fish you can boil, stew in vinegar, and bake, but the best is fryed, roach just clean the fish, ie hold the tail and descale with a blunt knife, scrape all the scales off towards the head on both sides then with a pair of scissors cut up the vent of the said fish and take all the insides out, wash and dry and dredge in flour and fry in a hot pan, salmon is nice but make sure its fresh and not farmed, cook in foil on the barbi, use 3 sheets, oil the fish season and sprinkle some soy on the fish and lemon juice.
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wtf

Post  essox_lucius1 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:09 pm

bull wrote:pike not bad but is boney, perch tastes nice when cooked in oil and garlic butter pan fryed but make sure your pan is hot, has with most coarse fish you can boil, stew in vinegar, and bake, but the best is fryed, roach just clean the fish, ie hold the tail and descale with a blunt knife, scrape all the scales off towards the head on both sides then with a pair of scissors cut up the vent of the said fish and take all the insides out, wash and dry and dredge in flour and fry in a hot pan, salmon is nice but make sure its fresh and not farmed, cook in foil on the barbi, use 3 sheets, oil the fish season and sprinkle some soy on the fish and lemon juice.
cheers.
are you polish ?

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Post  noodle on Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:26 pm

essox_lucius1 wrote:
bull wrote:pike not bad but is boney, perch tastes nice when cooked in oil and garlic butter pan fryed but make sure your pan is hot, has with most coarse fish you can boil, stew in vinegar, and bake, but the best is fryed, roach just clean the fish, ie hold the tail and descale with a blunt knife, scrape all the scales off towards the head on both sides then with a pair of scissors cut up the vent of the said fish and take all the insides out, wash and dry and dredge in flour and fry in a hot pan, salmon is nice but make sure its fresh and not farmed, cook in foil on the barbi, use 3 sheets, oil the fish season and sprinkle some soy on the fish and lemon juice.
cheers.
are you polish ?


why would he be?

im not and ive eaten most of em

mind you ive eaten alligator squirrel ostrich horse earthworms.....

ive a good recipe for cat if you fancy it tongue

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Post  adie1200 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:03 pm

I've never tried any fresh water fish But i know it used to be thought to be ok years ago !!
In bad taste now though in my opinion what with all the bad feeling with fish theft and such !!

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Post  noodle on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:31 pm

adie1200 wrote:I've never tried any fresh water fish But i know it used to be thought to be ok years ago !!
In bad taste now though in my opinion what with all the bad feeling with fish theft and such !!

Adie


or good depending on what you like Laughing

but until quite recently a lot of anglers would take fish for the pot mostly pike or perch. i fish a few waters where im the only coarse angler allowed, and the price of that is the owner wants the odd small pike to eat.

and lets look at it logically most of the world eats freshwater fish we are the exception.

now fish theft ill grant you is a different matter, think about this when has the problem of fish theft become a problem????

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Post  adie1200 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:45 pm

( and lets look at it logically most of the world eats freshwater fish we are the exception. )

We are not most of the world Very Happy We are to over populated to let anyone who wants to help themself to our fish they would soon disappear from our waters !!

( now fish theft ill grant you is a different matter, think about this when has the problem of fish theft become a problem???? )

It became a problem when too many so called anglers started helping themself to our fish !!

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Re: fish eating and would you have you

Post  noodle on Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:08 pm

adie1200 wrote:( and lets look at it logically most of the world eats freshwater fish we are the exception. )

We are not most of the world Very Happy We are to over populated to let anyone who wants to help themself to our fish they would soon disappear from our waters !!

so what would be the tonnage required to provide a sustainable source based on the old byelaws which have now been updated, your answer is worded as to be definitive so please be so.
( now fish theft ill grant you is a different matter, think about this when has the problem of fish theft become a problem???? )

It became a problem when too many so called anglers started helping themself to our fish !!

it became a problem when carp came to the fore and latterly species like barbel etc it wasnt theft when the law allowed you to remove fish, provided the water controlling body also alowed you to remove fish.

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Post  nickcarpy on Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:12 am

agree noodle,most of the world relies/eats fish but our country is in a better state.thats why we have some of the best inland fishing.just think if we sll help ourselves with just one?they would soon end up no fish.sooner eat beans than kill our fish!!

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Post  Bazz on Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:24 am

I once tried Perch that was on the menu at a Dutch hotel restaurant. Rather like Trout.

The thing is, you can only really eat freshwater fish that are either from a stocked & sustained water eg.. a Trout fishery (even then, you are limited to what you can take home) or from a "Fish Farm"... Taking Carp, Pike, Perch etc.. from waters like rivers and lakes that are stocked with a few specimen fish for specimen fishing etc.. cannot really sustain fish being taken from them for the pot. Its bad enough with inland Cormorants and the popular re-introduction of the Otter to our waters + fish being poached by immigrants... Neutral

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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:22 pm

I've eaten...

Pike...I don't care what anyone says. It's magic.
Perch...Lovely stuff.
Roach...The one I ate was about 2lbs, which will make some angry but we're blessed with them. It was really nice but a little boney for my liking.
Grayling...Very nice. Subtle like Brown Trout.
Eel...Amazing smoked. Jellied eels is just dirty snotters, like the type you get when you've been using a Stihl saw all day.
Brown Trout...A firm favourite.
Salmon...Overrated nonsense IMO.
Minnow...Tried them after someone told me they tasted like whitefish. They didn't but not too bad admittedly.
Carp...OK but nothing to shout home about. Bit pasty I thought.

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Post  Lefty on Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:04 pm

Bazz wrote:The thing is, you can only really eat freshwater fish that are either from a stocked & sustained water eg.. a Trout fishery (even then, you are limited to what you can take home) or from a "Fish Farm"... Taking Carp, Pike, Perch etc.. from waters like rivers and lakes that are stocked with a few specimen fish for specimen fishing etc.. cannot really sustain fish being taken from them for the pot. Its bad enough with inland Cormorants and the popular re-introduction of the Otter to our waters + fish being poached by immigrants... Neutral


Have to agree with you on that one matey. I don't have a problem with anybody eating freshwater fish as long as they come from a legitimate and sustainable source.

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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:04 am

Ah but that's half the problem then isn't it?

What do you imagine 'sustainable' fish are fed on?? They're fed on processed wild fish and it can take many more times the weight in wild fish to create a reared fish, so hardly sustainable.

How many of you use halibut pellets to fish for carp?? That's a wild fish being abused for it's oil content alone and what for?? To fish for a non-native fish that is the single biggest threat to natural fisheries up and down the country. Hardly sustainable and at what cost to the environment?

Then you have to look at what sustainable farming has done to the ecology of many waters. Wild salmon under threat from escapees, infiltrating almost all the rivers in the UK and polluting the natural gene pool with their less than perfect traits. Now many salmon rivers have no pure stocks to speak of.

So-called triploid rainbows that supposedly cannot breed. Even the experts agree that there is a small percentage of fish that go on to breed. The River Leven that comes off Loch Lomond. That now has a run of steelheads!

Loch Awe. You can fish for rainbows and chap as many as you like because the loch has been polluted by so-called sustainable rainbows that have upset the ecology of the water.

Immigrants are also on the end of a lot of abuse. There are far more bad 'anglers' from within the UK. Do you believe poaching started when the Polish arrived. Rubbish! It's been going on for centuries. I barely see any immigrants from one month to the next but I DO find evidence of our own anglers leaving rubbish, tackle, bubbles, bait packs, beers, barbecues, traces, tins, corn, bog paper, poly-bags, discarded line, chopped trees, fires, holes and all the rest of the crap UK anglers leave at their behinds.

What is a legitimate source anyway? Anything that isn't a commercial fishery is a legitimate source. Until fishing for the pot is banned, you can take fish for the pot every time you go fishing, quite legally and it should be maintained that way.

The minute we ban fishing for the pot, we are basically admitting hat we only fish for leisure and that's it! The antis have all the proof they need and we've lost ANY basis for putting hooks in the mouths of fish. Think about that one. What would you rather have. A law that says anglers can take some fish for the pot or no fishing at all?

It isn't as simple as, "I don't have a problem with anybody eating freshwater fish as long as they come from a legitimate and sustainable source"

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