braid breaking strain
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braid breaking strain
what is the best power pro braid for ledgering pike 50lb/65lb my normal water has a few deep drop offs and dont want it to fray like cotton cheers
pikebob- Posts : 43
Join date : 2010-02-26
Location : scotland /edinburgh
Re: braid breaking strain
Use 18lb mono and float/leger rigs in that case. Braid and drop-offs don't go together.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: braid breaking strain
thanks very much andy i thought that but was not sure cheers again
pikebob- Posts : 43
Join date : 2010-02-26
Location : scotland /edinburgh
Re: braid breaking strain
unless you can lift the rod tip enough to get over the drop off then like andy says use mono.
tootall- Posts : 1339
Join date : 2009-01-29
Age : 47
Location : Beverley, East Yorkshire
Re: braid breaking strain
or use a polaris locking float mate to fish over the dropp offmate if not to far away i know this is not ledgering but you can use braid
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: braid breaking strain
What happens if you have to play an angry pike near the drop-off?? A float-leger rig on braid isn't going to help you then.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: braid breaking strain
yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping offAndy Macfarlane wrote:What happens if you have to play an angry pike near the drop-off?? A float-leger rig on braid isn't going to help you then.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: braid breaking strain
good point Andy, Stubbo.stubbo wrote:yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping offAndy Macfarlane wrote:What happens if you have to play an angry pike near the drop-off?? A float-leger rig on braid isn't going to help you then.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
as yet i have never been snapped off with braid, and iv'e hooked some very unusual debree
esoxjeff- Posts : 1171
Join date : 2008-09-09
Location : Doncaster
Re: braid breaking strain
been snapped once at the swivel s...te fox braid the early stuff my mate caught the very same pike about half an hour later with my trebles in it lucky or whatesoxjeff wrote:good point Andy, Stubbo.stubbo wrote:yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping offAndy Macfarlane wrote:What happens if you have to play an angry pike near the drop-off?? A float-leger rig on braid isn't going to help you then.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
as yet i have never been snapped off with braid, and iv'e hooked some very unusual debree
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: braid breaking strain
very lucky, then thats a good part of pikingstubbo wrote:been snapped once at the swivel s...te fox braid the early stuff my mate caught the very same pike about half an hour later with my trebles in it lucky or whatesoxjeff wrote:good point Andy, Stubbo.stubbo wrote:yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping offAndy Macfarlane wrote:What happens if you have to play an angry pike near the drop-off?? A float-leger rig on braid isn't going to help you then.
You could ruin the integrity of a large section of braid, as it rubs along the drop-off at all angles, which is an expensive loss when you have to cut back to fresh braid, which also ruins the fill level of your spool, which affects your casting distance. Losing a large chunk of braid is expensive too. Worse still, lose the fish altogether, trailing a length of braid behind it.
Best just use mono for drop-offs. 100 yards of fresh 18lb Sensor doesn't cost much. Besides, you should have a spare spool filled with mono anyway.
Going out with braid alone for all eventualities is presumptuous.
There are all kinds of hazards out there and if you don't know the terrain, you're taking risks. It only takes a sunken shopping-trolley, car, bike, rock, mussel bed etc. to ruin your day.
as yet i have never been snapped off with braid, and iv'e hooked some very unusual debree
esoxjeff- Posts : 1171
Join date : 2008-09-09
Location : Doncaster
Re: braid breaking strain
dont use a polaris with braid,cuts through em like butter,expensive at £3-50stubbo wrote:or use a polaris locking float mate to fish over the dropp offmate if not to far away i know this is not ledgering but you can use braid
pete777- Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-02-18
Re: braid breaking strain
not lost one yet mate not really any sharp edges on them they say it does,nt damage your line in any way on the packitpete777 wrote:dont use a polaris with braid,cuts through em like butter,expensive at £3-50stubbo wrote:or use a polaris locking float mate to fish over the dropp offmate if not to far away i know this is not ledgering but you can use braid
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: braid breaking strain
on the new packerts ,says dont use braid
pete777- Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-02-18
Re: braid breaking strain
stubbo wrote:yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping off
How does it save you snapping off?
What does the float do when a pike is towing your line all over the place??
OK, you can cast safely but that's all you can do.
If you turn up at a venue with braid only, you haven't filled your spare spools with mono and you're making the very mistake I already pointed out.
Lazy and irresponsible IMO.
Braid is great but to imagine it's fine for anywhere and a float is going to make all OK, is just being obstinate for the sake of using braid only.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: braid breaking strain
You want to try telling the locals around here andy, They turn up at some waters where mono is going to be the best line to use, And every spool they carry are full of braid, All the same weight as well, Whats that all about ? But then tey struggle and allways end up on pods with bleepers, And some of the resavoirs we fish have walls submerged and further out you might just hook a roof or chimny pot, They seem to think braid is the be all and end all, I use the Polaris floats myself, Good solid piece of kit, And although they work best with mono i have not had any problems with them when using braid, But it just depends where you are fishing i supposeAndy Macfarlane (Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:00 pm) wrote:stubbo wrote:yes know what you mean andy not cheap stuff that braid but say if you turn up at a venue with just braid its a option mate it does get you over the dropp off and will save you snapping off
How does it save you snapping off?
What does the float do when a pike is towing your line all over the place??
OK, you can cast safely but that's all you can do.
If you turn up at a venue with braid only, you haven't filled your spare spools with mono and you're making the very mistake I already pointed out.
Lazy and irresponsible IMO.
Braid is great but to imagine it's fine for anywhere and a float is going to make all OK, is just being obstinate for the sake of using braid only.
Re: braid breaking strain
stubbo wrote:not lost one yet mate not really any sharp edges on them they say it does,nt damage your line in any way on the packitpete777 wrote:dont use a polaris with braid,cuts through em like butter,expensive at £3-50stubbo wrote:or use a polaris locking float mate to fish over the dropp offmate if not to far away i know this is not ledgering but you can use braid
Hee-hehe...misunderstanding there. The braid cuts through the float, not the other way about.
What braid are you getting at £3.50???
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: braid breaking strain
thing its the floats at £3.50
nickcarpy- Posts : 1717
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 51
Location : hatfield doncaster
Re: braid breaking strain
if its the braid i'll ave some pleasenickcarpy wrote:thing its the floats at £3.50
esoxjeff- Posts : 1171
Join date : 2008-09-09
Location : Doncaster
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