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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:39 pm

I thought seeing as some of you are new and there's not a lot of getting out at the moment, you might want to try these fellers out. I use them all the time pike fishing and they're the mutt's nuts.

Anyone use buoyant leger stems? Even better still when the weed starts to get thicker. The Fox ones don't seem to be up to much. The korda ones seem to be slightly better but I make my own...totally bomproof for whacking big leads and whole baits with pop-ups into weed or silt.

1: John Roberts Rig Tubing
2: Self-tapping curtain rings
3: Buoyancy aids...could be fox poppers, corks...add to suit your applications
4: Green acrylic
5: Paperclip for rotten bottom type affair
6: Done

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Post  newie2010 on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:00 pm

looking at some diagrams on google, this method might be worth trying at the private lake i fish, as its weedy
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Post  pikebob on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:05 pm

hi andy hows you do the stems need to be stiff might sound daft but have never used any of these cheers mate

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Post  pete777 on Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:50 pm

bought the stems a while back,not made any yet,what length you make yours to andy Smile

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Post  tootall on Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:16 pm

Yes the booms must be stiff to avoid tangles amongst the weed etc

I have some i use that are 6", 10" and 14" depending on the weed depth
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:57 am

I don't reinforce the stems or you have something that snags. Then the paperclip has been defeated. They're stiff enough but not so stiff that you can't flex it out of a snag if it gets locked up.

Besides, the air inside the tube adds to the buoyancy. Filling the tube with a rod or filler or something would make in heavier.

I just cut the rig tubing in half but you could make them shorter, which would increase the rigidity.
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Post  paddy pike on Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:58 am

I have made these in the past but used to use 4Lb line to make the rotten bottom, But the paper clip will be getting some stick from now on, Thanks Andy, Oh i meant to add that they dont want to be to short like Andy said the shorter you make the the more rigid they get, This would defeet the object of the excersize, They really do need to be flaxable,
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Post  raf1870 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:01 am

Anyone know where to purchase self tapping curtain rings or do you mean screw eyes?




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Post  adie1200 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:04 am

Dont know about were you live but in doncaster you can find them in just about every hardware shop Very Happy Very Happy
Have you got a B&Q near you ? they do them Wink
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Post  raf1870 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:08 am

Checked B&Q adie they have never heard of them!!!

They just looked at me with a blank expression.

Screw eyes were the best they could offer me but dont want to use them as the curtain rings will be smoother running.



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Post  adie1200 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:35 am

Is there one of these near you

http://www.dunelm-mill.com/info/store-locator/

They will do them Very Happy
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:41 am

The things yer mammy used to hang net curtains with.
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Post  raf1870 on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:54 am

Basically good old screw hooks / rings then Very Happy



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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:58 am

Look at the picture....those things.
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Post  stubbo on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:23 pm

Andy Macfarlane wrote:The things yer mammy used to hang net curtains with.
you were lucky we had no curtains Shocked
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Post  raf1870 on Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:31 am

Yeah, screw eyes or rings!!!

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Post  Lefty on Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:57 pm

stubbo wrote:
Andy Macfarlane wrote:The things yer mammy used to hang net curtains with.
you were lucky we had no curtains Shocked
And we didn't have windows lol!
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Post  george on Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:46 pm

Many thanks Andy....made half a dozen up yesterday to try next week, fantastic idea
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Post  paddy pike on Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:41 pm

george wrote:Many thanks Andy....made half a dozen up yesterday to try next week, fantastic idea
You could write a review on how they performed if you get some time,
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Post  george on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:34 am

Only working 6 days in January so will have plenty of time Paddy Very Happy
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Post  adie1200 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:17 pm

Ooh maybe we can get a day in then George Very Happy Maybe on the river we were on about when i called you this morning Wink Very Happy
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Post  george on Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:38 pm

Let me know mate and we will get something sorted Very Happy
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:52 am

george wrote:Many thanks Andy....made half a dozen up yesterday to try next week, fantastic idea

Good yin mate. Aye, do a write up if they work OK for you.
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Post  paddy pike on Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:43 pm

Andy Macfarlane wrote:
george wrote:Many thanks Andy....made half a dozen up yesterday to try next week, fantastic idea

Good yin mate. Aye, do a write up if they work OK for you.
They used to be all the rage years ago Andy, Just dont know why we stopped using them, Thanks for bringing them back to life,Nice one,
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:35 pm

They do solve a lot of problems.
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