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Post  hurricane on Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:33 pm

When ledgering deadbaits do you attatch the lead direct to the line(via a swivel) or prefer some form of link between lead and mainline??
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Post  daveb on Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:51 pm

I generally use a link and, if distance fishing, I'll use a long mono link (6 inches longer than the trace) as this vastly improves casting range.

For short range I often employ one of those Fox leger booms with the black foam riser ball.

In saying all this, my mate just puts the lead straight on the main line and it doesn't seem to affect his results...
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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:00 pm

i use a 3oz lead with a swivel, connected via a run ring so there is no resistance whatsoever when a pike takes. run ring stopped by a rubber bead against the trace swivel to absorb the shock on casting. bit of silicone tubing round swivels and clip links to avoid tangles. all pulled back tight to pike swingers with open bail arm, and fox buzzers. works for me ! simples !! Very Happy Very Happy


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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:00 pm

I used to use the john roberts clips but if you fishy rocky lochs the lead gets caught it a disaster so i use rotten links all the time now same set up as Daveb.

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Post  big_d2008 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:41 pm

I use 2 1/2 or 3 oz inline barrel leads running free straight up and down my mainline with a rubber bead stopper at the swivel clip before the trace to stop friction. Tighten it back and set on bite indicators and buzzers on baitrunners and caught tons of fish this way.
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:46 pm

Why is this even a question of preference?

Leads are almost wholly responsible for snags. Pull for a break and there's yet another lost, baited trace in the water, which will no doubt get eaten eventually and probably result in a slow, lingering death as a result of starvation, be it a pike or maybe just an otter or an osprey or something else of little importance or value to wildlife.... Neutral

For the price of a paperclip or a mono rotten bottom, I mean what is the reason why some people employ what is probably the most dangerous way of rigging up a leger rig. I think it's just plain laziness and or carelessness that anyone fishes for pike fishes this way, knowing full well that the problem is easily solved.

A running leger rig is as basic a rig as rigs get and almost into 2012, there are people who still can't be bothered making one properly.

Leger-ring and a paperclip. It costs 11p.
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Post  big_d2008 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:30 am

Andy if this is aimed at my post just say. I am only using a modified method that was passed on to me when i was younger for fishing drains but most of the time i float deadbaits. I do also use running rigs when fishing back up in scotland on the lochs with a 15lb mono link so I am not stupid or unaware of other rigs available mate, just this rig works for me on the pretty much snaggless( appart from a little dead weed) drains that i fish that is all. Was just adding another method to the post.
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Post  doug6364 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:16 am

I suppose if your fishing snaggy waters, like you do andy, the paperclip is a good idea. at least the lead would come off whilst playing a fish if it got trapped. I use 50lb braid, and the stuff is as tough as old boots in the waters i fish, cause they arnt snaggy. If i did break off, the lead would be free to come off the line as i use a run ring. yes, very unfortunate for the pike if its taken a bait but you try your best to eliminate as many possible outcomes if the worst was to happen. But if you worried about that stuff happening, you would never go fishing.

we are all reasonably sensible, some with more experience than others, but experience comes with years of fishing.

i,m sure we all do the best we can to safeguard the fish.

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Post  welsh piker on Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:23 pm

3oz lead on a john roberts clip on main line, then to avoid the snags, or lose of trace, cover your lead in plasticine, this will 99.9% result in not losing your trace,, if you lads fish rocky bottoms try it, it works for me, if ive ever got caught in a snag, the lead will release from the plasticine.. Cool Cool
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Post  Lamby78 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:04 am

Thats sounds a really good idea nice one
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Post  creamcake007 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:02 pm

plasticine brilliant Idea def going to try that one Very Happy
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Post  doug6364 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:47 pm

at least the fish have something to do ( modelling plasticine ), whilst waiting for some bait to be thrown in. lol!
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Post  welsh piker on Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:24 pm

doug6364 wrote:at least the fish have something to do ( modelling plasticine ), whilst waiting for some bait to be thrown in. lol!

in your case doug, thats all they'l do, lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Post  doug6364 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:11 pm

mmm, not quite sure what you mean welsh piker ? confused confused
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Post  welsh piker on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:22 pm

doug6364 wrote:mmm, not quite sure what you mean welsh piker ? confused confused

Well doug, it's called a bit of humour. no offence intented. Exclamation
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Post  doug6364 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:36 pm

i know it was humerous my ol m8, no offence taken. Very Happy
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Post  stubbo on Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:40 pm

when you say it pulls out of the plasticine surely it depends on the gap it is stuck in..ie it might be smaller than the lead... just a thought pal.........Suspect
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Post  doug6364 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:56 am

so, thats the size of the lead x size of hole, divided by ? x pye ? lol!
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Post  matt859 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:07 pm

you could try covering the lead in pye Very Happy
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Post  doug6364 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:46 pm

you cant Matt, cause i,ve eaten all of them !! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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