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Post  lowdouble on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:54 am

The Science of keeping a fishing Diary?

I have been an avid angler for the last 30 years, never specialising in any one species, and happy to catch anything with fins! †Due to my then location in Nottinghamshire England, I did most of my fishing on the small estate lakes that litter the countryside around there. I also spent a great deal of time on the smaller drains and Canals which were equally as numerous. †Small and usually heavily fished, these waters were pretty easy to work out as to how, and where to get the best results from them. You always got regular match reports in the local press, and as access was usually obtained with a cheap day ticket, and open to everyone, there wasnít much chance of keeping anything on the quiet (thankfully).

So as the waters were fairly small, fish location and migrations were a simple task indeed, most lakes were land locked, and varied very little in depths. †The only real time the fish left their usual haunts were to spawn, and that was a time of closed season anyway so it never really mattered!

Well a little over 17 years ago I moved over to Ireland, Co Cavan to be precise, and the size of the waters blew me away!
What on earth was the point of casting a feeder with a size 20 hook, and a single pinky, or a half mackerel popped up in the margins when the Lough could be several thousand acres plus. †Soul destroying was what it was,
Working out waters of this size with so much about them unknown, was going to take a little more work than scanning the local papers for snippets of information, I needed a plan!

I am thankfully in the great situation of running a small B&B, mostly for visiting coarse anglers, plus a few Pike fishermen from the UK and Europe. †This made the gathering of information so much simpler. †I could use some of the more adventurous anglers as guinea pigs on new swims. †While making sure I kept a good few regular swims ticking over through the season. †This enabled me to get a better idea of where the huge shoals of coarse fish would be throughout the season, but as we gather more information the memory seems to lose its edge, and as we get older things seem a little blurred, so I made the decision to keep a thorough diary of all the days spent at the water, for both me and my guests.

Since moving to Ireland my passion for fishing has taken a turn towards the predators of these huge waters, and I now look forward more than ever to the winter time and the fresh frosty mornings.
But there lies another problem, trying to find a single solitary Pike seems a great deal harder than following shoals of fish, sometimes several thousand strong. And when you find them there is no guarantee they will be in a feeding mood.
The Diary had to be the way to go; surely there was a formula that would guarantee success?

I started keeping as in depth a Diary as possible, †keeping daily details of everything I could reliably measure (not moon phases though).
On a daily basis I would record.

1, Venue and Location fished
2, Air temperature
3, Water temperature (surface)
4, Air pressure and whether rising or falling, marked on my barometer from 1 to 10.
5, Wind speed and direction.
6, Baits, and how they were presented, (popped up etc).
7, The times runs occurred (feeding spells).
8, weights of all fish caught.




All this information gathered over the last 13 years has accumulated into 4 large A4 books, the information was there, but very hard to retrieve or work out, so I had to come up with a better idea for viewing the results. †I picked my 4 most successful and often fished waters and decided to leave the more casual waters alone as I didnít have enough info to reach a proper conclusion.

I loaded all the information onto my PC and started to categorise my Pike fishing results into what I classed as, †1, Good days, 2, Average days 3, Bad days.
Based on what I would expect to catch on each water, remember a 20lb fish from one water is only as special a fish as say a mid double from another if thatís all it produces...

I ended up with a mass of information that would hopefully make my life a lot easier and my time spent fishing a lot more successful?

Well I will tell you this much, after many hours studying, and reading and re-reading the information I had available, I started to see a few trends appearing for the different waters I fished, it appeared that there were definitely bait preferences to some waters, and best times for certain baits i.e., Trout is deadly on the run up to Christmas, when the trout are naturally full of spawn and the Pike know they are going to get a special meal.
Also on a few of the waters, you could almost set your watch in time with the Pikes feeding spells, but not all the waters had the same times for success.

And I could easily see by adding up all the days fished against the amount of Jacks, Doubles and Twenties I caught, which venues had the greatest potential for catching the bigger stamp of fish. I fish a water i love because theres plenty of doubles to be had, but on closer inspection and with all the data in front of me. it added up to having to catch 117 Pike for every 20lb + Pike. Where as another water that was a little slower fishing produced a 20lb beauty for every 20 fish caught. Location is the key☺

But even with thorough inspection I havenít managed to pin point one special set of conditions that can guarantee me good fishing, on all the different venues I fish.

I seem to have had success and failure on the same set of conditions, on the same waters, using the same methods,
I can manage to blank on jack filled puddles, and bag up on the hardest waters imaginable, I can get run after run on lamprey and then return the following weekend and all the pike have changed to smelt lovers while I was away.

There is only one rule that is set in stone,
If you arenít in it you canít win it!!!!!

And do you know, finding out there isnít a magic formula to Catch Pike was the best result I could have had! †Where would the fun be in catching every time we went?
I wonder how many extra Pike I could have caught if I had actually gone out fishing instead of sat typing on this laptop (like now!) looking for a short cut to success?

It seems to have paid off for a few of my Guests who had fishing that dreams are made of lol. †maybe it will Get me the 30 I dream of too.





Frustrated Angler.

Andy ☺
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Post  piketastic on Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:25 pm

Nice one Andy , really good read . I do think that the snippets of info help out more often than not Smile It's so frustrating , but there's nothing finer than when it comes right . I had to laugh and marvel at the thought of that day you had with the brace of twenties. Not particularly that point but the 21 and an 18 within10 minutes of each other . Awesome. Excellent stuff mate, hope someone else posts to get this section up and running.
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Post  dave van dessel on Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:44 pm

Great read my friend

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Post  adie1200 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:53 pm

Another brilliant read great stuff Andy can't wait for the next post Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  piketastic on Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:36 am

I've just sat and read this again. Great stuff . The immediate after thoughts are , " I want to go piking." fishing
If only I didn't have to go to work today.
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Post  stubbo on Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:48 pm

piketastic wrote:I've just sat and read this again. Great stuff . The immediate after thoughts are , " I want to go piking." † †fishing
If only I didn't have to go to work today.
I am not going to work tomorrow, I am going piking......
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Post  lowdouble on Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:42 am

Good man lol Very Happy
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