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carp rods suck
went fishing sunday broke my mates carp rod a rod supposed 2b able to take a 40lb carp. crap couldent even handle a 26lb pike seemed fine till my bro snapped it near in half ten min later while spinning now we in a quandry who pays for the new rod me that had just landed a monster fish on it or him who was using it for 10 min after me b4 it broke either way some1 got 2 pay upor my other mate gona be well pissed.

allan fae fife- Posts: 25
Join date: 2009-06-29
Age: 41
Location: fife
Re: carp rods suck
Was the weather hot and how are your rods stored when not in use? I ask because I broke a carp rod, which had landed 100s of good doubles to over 20lbs no problem and one day I left it in the baking sunshine and the bank was almost too hot too touch. Low and behold, I got a run, lifted into it and the rod folded like a knife right above the handle at the thickest part.
When I took it to Daiwa, they didn't say a word and even suggested the fact it had been baking all day could have caused expansion on on the top side of the rod, weakening it.
A small dink by a weight can also cause micro-fine fractures which may not appear visible to the naked eye but cause the blank to weaken over time.
Lots of things can cause a break. Take some piccies and show us and we might be able to help you.
....andy....
When I took it to Daiwa, they didn't say a word and even suggested the fact it had been baking all day could have caused expansion on on the top side of the rod, weakening it.
A small dink by a weight can also cause micro-fine fractures which may not appear visible to the naked eye but cause the blank to weaken over time.
Lots of things can cause a break. Take some piccies and show us and we might be able to help you.
....andy....

Andy Macfarlane- Posts: 1757
Join date: 2008-08-13
Location: Glasgow
snap crackle pop
was a hot day but i wouldent say it was baking.i recon i wakened it catching my fish .mite add that this was a replacement top half previous top half also broke in two on a piking trip last year.coicedence i think not.anyhow hope to get a replacement again then never using again ty

allan fae fife- Posts: 25
Join date: 2009-06-29
Age: 41
Location: fife
Re: carp rods suck
When I got kitted up to start Piking in November of last year at Walkers of Trowell, the chap in the shop was trying to sell me a Free Spirit Pike rod at £118! When I informed him I was after two rods at around £50 apiece, the only rods they had within the budget were Shimano ones.. When I asked why the big price difference, he mumbled something about the quality of the Free Spirit Carbon & it not "softening" over time as much with use
I bought 2 x Shimano 2.5lb TC Carp rods & am happy with them
I also have 2 x Wychwood Extremis 3lb TC rods which are 'Pike rods' & these are very good also.. 
I bought 2 x Shimano 2.5lb TC Carp rods & am happy with them

Bazz- Posts: 1121
Join date: 2008-11-12

Re: carp rods suck
I've got 4 carp rods I use for pike fishing and none have given me any bother. I think you've just been sold a pup.
....andy....
....andy....

Andy Macfarlane- Posts: 1757
Join date: 2008-08-13
Location: Glasgow
Re: carp rods suck
Allan, my mate's rod snapped in half landing a 13lb carp the other week. It was a 3lb TC carbon carp rod but I can't remember the make.
Upon closer inspection, it would appear it had a hairline crack in it where it snapped. How and when it got damaged cannot be ascertained.
I can't comment on degradation of carbon blanks as, to be honest, not heard of this until now.
Upon closer inspection, it would appear it had a hairline crack in it where it snapped. How and when it got damaged cannot be ascertained.
I can't comment on degradation of carbon blanks as, to be honest, not heard of this until now.

Lefty- Posts: 1268
Join date: 2008-08-26
Age: 42
Location: Cadeby
Re: carp rods suck
i've used the same 4 rods for carping and piking plus the odd bit of mackerel fishing since i was 13 years old.... some 15 years since and i've never had any problems with any of them
(1 pair of century armalite 2 3/4lb t/c and 1 pair of daiwa whisker kevlar 2 1/4lb t/c).
sounds like either clumsy handling or damage to me.
(1 pair of century armalite 2 3/4lb t/c and 1 pair of daiwa whisker kevlar 2 1/4lb t/c).
sounds like either clumsy handling or damage to me.

robh107- Posts: 805
Join date: 2008-11-28
Age: 31
Location: hull, east yorkshire
Re: carp rods suck
robh107 wrote:i've used the same 4 rods for carping and piking plus the odd bit of mackerel fishing since i was 13 years old.... some 15 years since and i've never had any problems with any of them
(1 pair of century armalite 2 3/4lb t/c and 1 pair of daiwa whisker kevlar 2 1/4lb t/c).
sounds like either clumsy handling or damage to me.
yeah but you only look 15
runs away laughing face
what whiskers are they, old dictators?

noodle- Posts: 1152
Join date: 2008-08-29
Age: 37
Location: nwest england

carp rods suck
i have been using the same two carp rods for pike for 15 years plus a century armalite that is five years old, sure they ave seen better days,but however they have been looked after. i guess rod breakage is caused by either a manufacturing fault or people not looking after their gear properly. probably the latter 

richh 84- Posts: 1
Join date: 2009-07-04
Re: carp rods suck
My rod I use for carp and pike is a 3pce Dragon Carp 2.5lb TC that cost me the massive sum of £12.50 BRAND NEW !!
Before that I had another Dragon Carp rod. It was the same rod but in a 2pce design. Sold that to a mate for a tenner 15 months after buying it. Depreciation? don't know what you mean
Neither rod has given me cause for concern as to it's strength or capabilities. A sound investment if you don't mind me saying so
The only concerns about it (them) is the weight. But seeing as the rod is only in my hands whilst casting/reeling in or playing a fish it's not really a major concern. I will however be upgrading to a carbon rod as and when I can afford to in order to eradicate the weight issue.
I'll be keeping the Dragon Carp one though as a back up rod or for the odd bit of sea fishing.
Before that I had another Dragon Carp rod. It was the same rod but in a 2pce design. Sold that to a mate for a tenner 15 months after buying it. Depreciation? don't know what you mean
Neither rod has given me cause for concern as to it's strength or capabilities. A sound investment if you don't mind me saying so
The only concerns about it (them) is the weight. But seeing as the rod is only in my hands whilst casting/reeling in or playing a fish it's not really a major concern. I will however be upgrading to a carbon rod as and when I can afford to in order to eradicate the weight issue.
I'll be keeping the Dragon Carp one though as a back up rod or for the odd bit of sea fishing.

Lefty- Posts: 1268
Join date: 2008-08-26
Age: 42
Location: Cadeby
Re: carp rods suck
ive never handled the dragon rods, are they glassfibre?

noodle- Posts: 1152
Join date: 2008-08-29
Age: 37
Location: nwest england

Re: carp rods suck
noodle wrote:ive never handled the dragon rods, are they glassfibre?
I cant see anywhere on the rod or the website that states the material used for construction but would suspect that they are indeed made from fibreglass.

Lefty- Posts: 1268
Join date: 2008-08-26
Age: 42
Location: Cadeby
Re: carp rods suck
the joints will give it away they are usualy beige not always granted.
im considering buying some 3 piece rods and would prefer glass, and the cheaper the better car boot rods to get knocked about on days out to the seaside etc, and at 12.50 mybe worth a look
im considering buying some 3 piece rods and would prefer glass, and the cheaper the better car boot rods to get knocked about on days out to the seaside etc, and at 12.50 mybe worth a look

noodle- Posts: 1152
Join date: 2008-08-29
Age: 37
Location: nwest england

Re: carp rods suck
Here's the link to the rod on their website:
http://www.dragoncarpdirect.com/acatalog/DC244C.html
They also do 2 pce rods at a tenner
and also do 'pike rods' which I suspect are the same rods but in a green finish instead of black. Gavin1928 got given the Dragon Pike set they do as a present about 18 months ago and is impressed with them for the price that they sell for. Don't like the mono that they come with though
They also do sea rods.
For anybody wanting to get into fishing on a budget I don't think you can go wrong at all.
Not had chance today to look at the joints but will do and report back.
http://www.dragoncarpdirect.com/acatalog/DC244C.html
They also do 2 pce rods at a tenner
They also do sea rods.
For anybody wanting to get into fishing on a budget I don't think you can go wrong at all.
Not had chance today to look at the joints but will do and report back.

Lefty- Posts: 1268
Join date: 2008-08-26
Age: 42
Location: Cadeby
Re: carp rods suck
Just had a look at the rod and it's inconclusive.
The 'male' section of the joint is blocked off and the 'female' section is the same finish as the rod itself i.e. smooth matt black.
I dare say that they are fibreglass or else they wouldn't sell for the price they are.
The 'male' section of the joint is blocked off and the 'female' section is the same finish as the rod itself i.e. smooth matt black.
I dare say that they are fibreglass or else they wouldn't sell for the price they are.

Lefty- Posts: 1268
Join date: 2008-08-26
Age: 42
Location: Cadeby
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