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Post  Alex Makk on Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:04 pm

Hi gents,

been down ponds with my lures and there has been a snap to the day......YES SNAP......there goes my rod..... with a few curses and a bite of the tongue ... Bazz kindly lent me his spare.

Well with my rod gone i have a reason to search for a new one i'm on the hunt,

I am still at college so i'm also on a budget of 60-90
also i'm after a rod with a trigger grip and a baitcaster multiplier.

There are that may different brands with combo's i go in circles

The Abu garcia silver max combo looks promising. yet i dont want to make a wrong move.
if anyone has any reccomandations i would like to know?

Help/reccomandations taken

Cheers
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Post  robh107 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:20 pm

well going on experience of other abu reels i have they're of highest quality mate, but then again the reels i have experience of are the 7000 size ambassadeurs that i use for beach fishing and are highly reknowned as a sturdy reel with good casting ability.
thats as far as i can advise you, although i did see a silvermax multiplier on ebay last night and it looked good. i would in all honesty buy one mate, even if its just to give it a try.
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Post  Guest on Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:27 pm

My condolences Mr Makk........I have had the misfortune of breaking a couple of rods in my life and can therefore sympothise with you............ Sad
I can unfortunately not comment on the Abu gear as I have always fished either Daiwa or Shimano.........how do these compare price wise with the Abu stuff over here???

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Post  jpq1010 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:07 pm

shimano curado .... a great reel... not what i would call inexpensive , but the quality is excellent ..about $170 us . they even make a deep spool version that would be perfect for pike.

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Post  Bazz on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:38 pm


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Post  Alex Makk on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:49 pm

Bazz wrote:http://www.matchmansupplies.co.uk/pike_reels.html

Take a look at this from Daiwa Wink

Nice but a bit out of my budget bazz
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Post  Bazz on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:52 pm

Where have you seen this ABU Max rod/reel combo, Alex..??

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Post  Alex Makk on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:58 pm

Bazz wrote:Where have you seen this ABU Max rod/reel combo, Alex..??

https://www.tackleuk.co.uk/#index/cPath=90

there are three sets blue max, black max and silver max bluemax being the cheapest and silver max being the most expensive.......


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Post  Bazz on Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:01 am

Looks good to me... Very Happy

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Post  Alex Makk on Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:03 am

Bazz wrote:Looks good to me... Very Happy

Which one?
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Post  Bazz on Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:15 am

Buy the best one you can afford mate.. Wink

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Post  kell on Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:17 am

mrmakk i use a abu garcia rod with daiwa baitcaster and it is a great set up and lovly action when playing a fish (wait for the coments ?)
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Post  Alex Makk on Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:21 pm

well there has been good advice (cheers guys) keep it coming as im still serching

It looks like the ABU GARCIA SILVER MAX COMBO thats is taking my favour but my mind could change
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Post  greg on Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:14 pm

for what your gettin, anyone is a good buy. cant go wrong with the brand.
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Post  Trent Piker on Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:51 pm

MrMakk, If you're on a tight budget and not worried about paying for a name, Decathlon (next to Ikea) uaually have some good reliable fishing gear and some excellent lure rods.
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Post  Bazz on Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:53 pm


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Post  Alex Makk on Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:16 pm

Ahh i forgot they do fishing gear thanks dazz and bazz sunny
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Post  noodle on Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:49 am

dont buy the abu the cage is plastic im a little concerned about the durability of it to be honest (ive the procaster (i think) and its very smooth yes but not bombproof)

what lure weights are you after casting?

id look for a second hand c3 or maybe a new daiwa proteus both proper round reels none of these little things. if you want a smaller one try the toothy critter (not the six shooter though) with a little work you can get it tuned very well

rod wise it really depends on what you want to cast
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Post  Lefty on Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:06 am

Sometimes me and noodle don't seem to agree on some points Wink but I have to agree wholeheartedly and say that an ABU C3 takes some beating.

Totally rebuildable, very tunable, can be pimped as much as you want and, if cared for, will last a lifetime.

I had one for a little while (6501) and was well impressed with it but just couldn't get it to work to my liking so sold it. I should have kept it and persevered with it. Because I had never used a baitcasting reel it was totally alien to me and I just kept getting backlashes.

I sold it for more than I paid for it so all was not lost Very Happy
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Post  kell on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:11 am

I have an abu and it is an awsome reel but i do not think mrmakk will be using the lures it is designed for

I have a toothy critter they are alright if you only have a few quid to spend

Six shooter total load of crap i have a right hand model in the shed still boxed and if anybody wants it they can have it for free.

but the procaster can cast spinners and lures and with the abu rod they are a great combinaation.this is why i said mrmakk should go for combo as i own every one mentioned as for any others i cannot comment

If mrmakk lived closer he could have come and tried every one to see which he got on with before buying.

When you do get one mrmakk keep the free drag just slithly tight so you have to punch the lure out and practice feathering your spool to stop the wind knots they are possibly the biggest reason people pack in with baitcasters.
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Post  Alex Makk on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:24 am

kell wrote:I have an abu and it is an awsome reel but i do not think mrmakk will be using the lures it is designed for

I have a toothy critter they are alright if you only have a few quid to spend

Six shooter total load of crap i have a right hand model in the shed still boxed and if anybody wants it they can have it for free.

but the procaster can cast spinners and lures and with the abu rod they are a great combinaation.this is why i said mrmakk should go for combo as i own every one mentioned as for any others i cannot comment

If mrmakk lived closer he could have come and tried every one to see which he got on with before buying.

When you do get one mrmakk keep the free drag just slithly tight so you have to punch the lure out and practice feathering your spool to stop the wind knots they are possibly the biggest reason people pack in with baitcasters.

Thnks for that,

I prefer the baitcaster style of reel(TOP) that the original multiplier(BOTTOM).....



the types of lure i chuck are these


They are not heavy or too light just right for me
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Post  robh107 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:37 am

i have a quantum iron IR3 that i bought from harris angling 10 years ago along with a south bend trophy tamer xl rod and although the rod is the best lure casting rod i've used backlashes have always been a problem when using light lures (-30g), so i tend to use a fixed spool/deadbait rod for these lures and the multiplier set up for lures of 40g+, i think that until you get some experience casting the larger lures on a multiplier outfit it may be wise to do the same mr makk, i.e. for anything smaller than 40g use a normal deadbait rod/fixed spool reel with a plug trace.
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Post  Lefty on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:53 am

That probably explains why I couldn't get on with a baitcaster.
All my lures are small ones or spinners.
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Post  Alex Makk on Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:54 pm

robh107 wrote:i have a quantum iron IR3 that i bought from harris angling 10 years ago along with a south bend trophy tamer xl rod and although the rod is the best lure casting rod i've used backlashes have always been a problem when using light lures (-30g), so i tend to use a fixed spool/deadbait rod for these lures and the multiplier set up for lures of 40g+, i think that until you get some experience casting the larger lures on a multiplier outfit it may be wise to do the same mr makk, i.e. for anything smaller than 40g use a normal deadbait rod/fixed spool reel with a plug trace.

I do get on with my stuff.......I have a baitcaster but its getting a bit old that has chucked all the lures in the pic nicely
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Post  Andy Macfarlane on Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:21 pm

Apart from the small spinners you have there, an Abu 5601 C3 (the 6501's smaller companion) will cast the plugs and spoons you no problem. I use a 5601 C3 for all my smaller lures. It's loaded with 50lb Power pro and it's lubed up with GT85, so it casts just about everything except the smallest spinners, which you should really be using a fixed spool/spinning rod for anyway.

The Max range of multipliers are OK but that's all they are and you won't find them anywhere near as easy to source parts for or maintain. There's also just a bit too much plastic on them for my liking, as Noodle has mentioned. rattle it about in a boat for a few sessions an I think it'll show it's weaknesses.

The rod is probably something similar to what I have. It's a 6 foot 6" Abu Ambassadeur MH rod I use.

What I will say though is, the reel is far more important than the rod. I've seen 20 quid Fladen rods that were absolutely superb but I'd still pay out for a C3 to put on it. I just can't see past them myself.

I don't really know that many lure anglers who use much else and for that reason, you'll always get information, parts, help and assistance from now till you pop your clogs. The max reel won't be so easy to keep in 3 years time.

....Andy....
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