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Post  BradfordLad on Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:54 am

Last on my shopping list FOOTWEAR How do you guys keep your toes warm in Winter ?

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Hint and Tips :

Thanks as always Wink
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Post  Lefty on Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:41 am

I wear 2 pairs of socks with at least one of them being made of wool.
Boots are Regatta waterproof hiking boots. These have a good grippy sole and are very comfortable.

A good tip is to try boots on whilst wearing your 2 pairs of socks to ensure comfortable fitting. The last thing you want is to try them with just one pair and find out when you get on the bank that they just aren't comfortable when wearing 2 pairs.

You want boots that fit snug enough to provide support without being too tight so they actually make your feet cold by restricting blood flow to the foot. I know this sounds daft, but it does happen. You need to be able to wriggle your toes a little whilst they are on and not feel any pinching or pressure in any other area of the foot.

Good ankle support is a must have. DO NOT get boots that are at or below the ankle, they offer very little or no support when scrambling around banks or walking along. If you go over in the cold wet slippery grass or on snow/ice, you WILL need the support on your ankle offered by higher boots.

Hope this helps.
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Post  John Dinnewell on Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:03 pm

When out on the boat Skeetex moonboots, when on the bank brasher gortex hiking boots. In both cases just worn with one pair of thermal socks. Never been let down yet

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Post  noodle on Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:41 pm

do you need to wade or just ankle depth or not get wet feet at all?

muckluks waders ( a friend who suffers with cold feet uses these and ive borrowed them they are far to warm for me) i generally use neoprene thighs or gore tex waist waders and with two pairs of socks (bick thick proper wool ones) have never suffered with cold feet
dunlop purofort wellies again same socks and these are boots you can actually walk in unlike most wellies
and a pair of walking boots ive used several over the years and if salomon fit you get them best by far
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Post  BradfordLad on Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:43 pm

Thanks Guys for all your advice...I have opted for these.

* Extreme stability, warmth and comfort
* Tailored Fit
* Dual Stitched
* Real Nubuck Leather
* 100% Breathable
* Thinsulate lining
* 100% Waterproof

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Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:52 pm

They look the part mate........... Wink

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Post  The Otter on Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:30 pm

Same for me mate good pair of Karrimoor hiking boots and when the weather gets realy cold and not doing much walking a pair of skeetex moon boots, one thing is though go carefull in the moonboots if it is wet I was like Bambi on ice
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Post  BradfordLad on Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:19 am

lol!
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Post  Marty Mac on Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:46 pm

BradfordLad wrote:Thanks Guys for all your advice...I have opted for these.

* Extreme stability, warmth and comfort
* Tailored Fit
* Dual Stitched
* Real Nubuck Leather
* 100% Breathable
* Thinsulate lining
* 100% Waterproof

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Have you tried the boots yet Bradford Lad? I need a pair myself and was wondering what they were like?
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Post  Chumley Warner on Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:56 am

I use Karrimor KSB Safety boots. Had my last pair for about 3 years and they were used for work and fishing and never let me down. Warm and waterproof right to the top. Had a Citoren C5 go over my foot at work and steel toggies saved my toes. Only paid £20 from ebay. Highly recommended mate.
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Post  BradfordLad on Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:26 pm

Guys these Boots are fantastic value for money.Warm,waterproof and really comfy.Need i say more £49.99.
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Post  The Flying Scot on Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:50 pm

Another vote for Skeetex!!!

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Post  nightwatchman on Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:09 pm

Well I've got 2 pairs of decent boots but my feet still get cold!!

I usually wear a pair of cotton socks (breathable and to absorb moisture) and then a pair of thermal socks on top but they still get cold feet. I've tried a pair of thermal and a pair of wool on top but still no good!

Anyone recommend some good socks? Rolling Eyes
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Post  noodle on Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:29 pm

nightwatchman wrote:Well I've got 2 pairs of decent boots but my feet still get cold!!

I usually wear a pair of cotton socks (breathable and to absorb moisture) and then a pair of thermal socks on top but they still get cold feet. I've tried a pair of thermal and a pair of wool on top but still no good!

Anyone recommend some good socks? Rolling Eyes

cotton isnt breathable, therein lies the problem.

proper wool is the best, it insulates even when wet out make sure they are wool and not acrylic though, the best are merino wool for longevity, some people like felted soles though just try a few and see what suits you best
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Post  nightwatchman on Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:05 pm

Cotton is meant to be breathable while things like nylon and polyester aren't.
But that makes no odds when your feet are still cold!
Time I bought some good woolly socks. alien
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Post  noodle on Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:25 pm

nightwatchman wrote:Cotton is meant to be breathable while things like nylon and polyester aren't.
But that makes no odds when your feet are still cold!
Time I bought some good woolly socks. alien

its the other way round thats an old wifes tale, its also why goretex etc are always madefrom fabrics such as polyester. cotton absorbs moisture, and by the same token thats why you dont wear cotton under gore tex, but you do wear fleece, which is ....... made from polyester/nylon/recycled pet bottles
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Post  nightwatchman on Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:57 pm

My understanding is cotton is breathable because its is made from a natural resource while the others are not because they are made from man made fibres. But if I'm wrong I stand corrected.

Saying that I wonder why in the 70's I used to sweat more in nylon undies! lol!
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Post  noodle on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:37 pm

simple one to answer its also why desert people dont wear lots of breathable fabrics

you loose less water when your clothes dont move it away

but consequently the same factors mke cotton feel cooler than the various poly.. materials

i was into mountain sports in a big way so i know my way around this field as it were there are varying degrees of breathability as well if you want to know more its a fairly interesting topic for conversation and finding the right combination of layering materials is a very personal thing gore, per, sympatex then there are others like climba bry hy vent etc some are just variations of the most popular laminate (old school gore before xtr etc) some sacrifice either breathable/waterproof properties in favour of the other it can be a mine field.

personally i tend to favor gore xcr for moderate activites in wet weather, pertex for high level activity in any weather, and non breathable (waxed cotton) for low level activity
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Post  nightwatchman on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:47 pm

Certainly is an interesting subject noodles!

I would have thought if you were sweating you would want a breathable material but in fact what you are saying is you loose more liquids!
So if we were to switch it the other way round and you wanted to keep your feet warm what would you recommend?
I'd go for 2 pairs of socks with a thin pair followed by a thicker pair but what material and would both pairs be made of the same fabric?

Just had a look at a few web sites and most wool socks are a wool blend.
Any of these any good?

70% WOOL 30% NYLON
OR
55% WOOL 35% POLYPROPYLENE 8% POLYMIDE 2% LYCRA

70% wool sounds good but I heard polypropylene is the way to go for warm feet?
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Post  noodle on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:26 pm

again it will be a personal thing depending on how you walk what you wear them with

start with the rich wool blend, may notbe the most comfortable (ictcy)

the poly prop may be more hard wearinfg though
try brands like thousand mile socks or smartwool as they are easy to get new ones if you like them
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Post  Lefty on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:48 am

It's not very often that I suffer with cold feet when fishing in winter. I put this down to what I wear elsewhere. Let me explain.

I typically wear army surplus clothing in the form of a Norgie top, army wool jumper, a cheap fleece jumper, army fleece then a goretex coat. On my bottom half I wear long johns, quilted army ECWS trousers and then some skiing trousers. Socks are one pair of towelling sports socks then a pair of wool or hiking socks (mixed materials/acrylic).

The reason I think my feet don't freeze is because (my opinion) my body is being kept lovely and toasty by the multiple layering system that I use, so therefore blood travelling to my extremities is already quite warm and therefore keeping my feet warmer.

Obviously a good quality pair of boots helps and I use Regatta waterproof hiking boots. I have to agree with noodle that cotton is no good at keeping your feet warm.
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Post  Alex Makk on Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:50 pm

With me being ex-cadet n all.......in the winter we would have 2 pairs of socks on 1 thick warm pair and a 'boot' socks............thick warm pair for warmth and the other to make sure you dont get blisters on the heel and to help with moisture........once we finished our tasks and we were settled, we took them off and rubbed Talc into our feet... and turn our sock inside out to wear again (This helps in keeping feet healthy).......During the summer we would do the same except we would just wear 1 pair of 'boot' socks.......
Thats for the feet and sock.........As for boots......i use regatta........Bout £30-40 lasted me 3 years now......Hope ive helped
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Post  tootall on Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:37 pm

A pair of these:

http://shop.packyourbags.com/acatalog/SealSkinz_Waterproof_Mid_Light_Socks.html?utm_source=Froogle&utm_medium=organic

Covered by a pair of these:

http://www.muckbootcompany.com/products/MMH-500A

has never let me down yet Cool Walm, dry feet everytime. Well worth splashing out on.
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Post  kell on Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:39 am

i see a lot of the dogging lads wear these and they seem very good

i have a pair of fur lined hunters no longer made has hunter went bust but awsome boots Very Happy
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Post  tootall on Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:24 pm

kell wrote:i see a lot of the dogging lads wear these and they seem very good

i have a pair of fur lined hunters no longer made has hunter went bust but awsome boots Very Happy

Not really into all of that mate lol but each to their own Laughing
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