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Re: home made traces
patch wrote:good ta hear Mrmack ive found afta taking up pike fishing!
my deadbaiting catches me alot more fish than mi lure fishing
now.. am not saying its the best way to go about fishing for pike!
It just mite be me! or the lures ime fishing with at the venus im at and so on
but it realy does!
i've always found that i get a smaller average size of fish when using plugs as opposed to deadbaits, and its not because i mostly fish deadbaits either.... of my 12 captures of pike over 20lb (including the 30 i've had twice) only 2 of those fell to plugs (one on a shakespeare big 's' and the other on a mann's super stretch 1 minus)
i think its because the smaller pike are more actively chasing food and will attack a plug more readily than a larger pike would.
robh107- Posts : 834
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Home made traces
These 10 mm crimps that you refer to; do you mean 1 mm??
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noz- Posts : 53
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Re: home made traces
noz wrote:These 10 mm crimps that you refer to; do you mean 1 mm??
Noz
no. thay are 10mm long
greg- Posts : 665
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I see, but all the crimps I have bought are sized on the internal diameter. When I make up traces, I like to leave the free end stuck out past the crimp; I then twist this around the trace and sleeve the lot with a bit of heat shrink which both neatens it and gives more strength. By the way, Maplin, the electronics shop is a good source of heat shrink in various sizes and it is a lot cheaper than the tackle shop.
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noz- Posts : 53
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Re: home made traces
if i can get the garage door open i'll go check for you (snow). i have crimped 15-30lb wire with the same crimps bud. with no effects. i know what your saying about what you buy in the shops. at the price and for what you get thee's dont go wrong...
give me a min i'll go and open the garrage and get back to you bud.
give me a min i'll go and open the garrage and get back to you bud.
greg- Posts : 665
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Re: home made traces
right the lable says 1.6-1.1 - 10mm copper crimp. 1.6 dia. 1.1 thick. 10mm long.
greg- Posts : 665
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Re: home made traces
patch wrote:
fox carboflex 20-30lb
fox crimps to suite the wire lb
sum good size 8 swivels with a decent lb rating
fox trace crimp covers
either fox trebbles or drennan carbon semi barbed size 8 and 6
fox crimpimg plyers
My set up is the same.
Here's one I made today while at work! lol
I used to use the Fox trace crimp covers but I've switched to shrink tubing now.
nightwatchman- Posts : 295
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Re: home made traces
now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
Last edited by greg on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
greg- Posts : 665
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Re: home made traces
Look even better with a nice pike holding onto it
Looks just like one of mine right down to the shrink tubing minus the bait flags that is ( i have some but very rarely use them )
Adie
Looks just like one of mine right down to the shrink tubing minus the bait flags that is ( i have some but very rarely use them )
Adie
Re: home made traces
greg wrote:now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
thay work for me mate! a use am for keeping sprats on
thay do cost too mutch though!
patch- Posts : 460
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Re: home made traces
patch wrote:greg wrote:now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
thay work for me mate! a use am for keeping sprats on
thay do cost too mutch though!
you could fish with a rusty nail just now and catch fish
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Re: home made traces
i dont think he does
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greg wrote:now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
You could use red elastic bands cut down?
Personally I think they work well for keeping soft baits on the hook just a little longer than normal?
Not sure about Sardines though? !
nightwatchman- Posts : 295
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Re: home made traces
nightwatchman wrote:greg wrote:now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
You could use red elastic bands cut down?
Personally I think they work well for keeping soft baits on the hook just a little longer than normal?
Not sure about Sardines though? !
yhe carnt see why not mate
for ya sardiens tie a piece ov line around the root ov the tail, top trebbel and trace
then ya can cast the sardiens without them flying off! just make sure thay are'nt any snags about!
patch- Posts : 460
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Re: home made traces
nightwatchman wrote:greg wrote:now just what would we do without the fox bait flags . waste of money
You could use red elastic bands cut down?
Personally I think they work well for keeping soft baits on the hook just a little longer than normal?
Not sure about Sardines though? !
i couldnt resist that one . i was going to say about the leky band, seen it somewhere......... does the colour matter . in all honestly i've never tryed it. buy the time i put a size four threw the tail root, its in the water for most of the shift
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Re: home made traces
MrMakk wrote:Just made my first ever spin trace........ And i'm buzzin.....
Well done Mr Makk
Did you crimp or twist?
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Re: home made traces
Andy Webster wrote:MrMakk wrote:Just made my first ever spin trace........ And i'm buzzin.....
Well done Mr Makk
Did you crimp or twist?
Crimp.............Dunno how to twist.....use '30plus' 7 strand @30lb with the right crimps with it.......
Re: home made traces
list: 20lb or more trace wire
matching crimps
semi barbless trebles
crimping pliers
cutters for wire
swivle
I usally cut about 70cm length
feed the wire through a crimp and a treble eye
feed the wire back through and then once more to add strength also leave a bit of wire so the treble is 'free'
you should have something that looks the same to this
crimp with the pliers
feed the second treble on and leave a space about the width of your hand between the two
tie the knotless knot upwards instead of down then you should have something like this
feed a crimp on and a swivle and do the same when you done the first treble
crimp once more
the finished product
matching crimps
semi barbless trebles
crimping pliers
cutters for wire
swivle
I usally cut about 70cm length
feed the wire through a crimp and a treble eye
feed the wire back through and then once more to add strength also leave a bit of wire so the treble is 'free'
you should have something that looks the same to this
crimp with the pliers
feed the second treble on and leave a space about the width of your hand between the two
tie the knotless knot upwards instead of down then you should have something like this
feed a crimp on and a swivle and do the same when you done the first treble
crimp once more
the finished product
Re: home made traces
same here greg size 4 fox carbons really sharp and stronggreg wrote:MrMakk wrote:I was shown how to make traces by Bazz.........The thing that gets me is that you have all diffrent crimps and swivles etc.... What would you list as a kit for someone like me (who is starting deadbaiting/ what crimp size,wire poundage sixe hooks etc...)?
i use wire and crimps, always have. 10mm - 1.02 crimps more than fine with 30lb wire.
crimping with fox plyers. i use size 4 VMC hooks. red and bronze for all my dead baits. no matter the size of bait. afew people laugh at it but it works for me. i get the hook rite thro the root of the tail. any size of bait, i've never had a bait come of yet no matter how hard i throw it.
most folks do there own thing.
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Re: home made traces
i've just had good results with them, the red hooks aint as strong as the bronze for some reason.
greg- Posts : 665
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Re: home made traces
think the reds are slightly smaller diamiter wire for some reasongreg wrote:i've just had good results with them, the red hooks aint as strong as the bronze for some reason.
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