Fox drop off indicator set up

There has been a lot of people saying that they cannot get the Fox arm (with the line gate) to work correctly. Some have modified theirs in order to work how they want them to.

Both Kell and Steve Abbot explained to me at last night's meeting how they should be set up in order to work correctly. It really is simple.

The line gate needs to be set in a way that the hinge part is at the bottom, is behind the spool slightly and nearly touching the spool. Oh yeah, open bail arm.

If set up this way, the only thing that can happen when line is pulled, is that the gate will open because it is being pulled forward.

I realise it can be difficult to visualise exactly what I mean so if you click on the link below you will see a video of Mick Brown explaining how to set it up correctly.

http://www.foxnewsletter.com/movies/product/psr/psr.html

the gate will open with a pull.... i agree there..... but mine would not open with any consistency with regard the amount of force it took even when set up as described and i felt that i was missing out on runs because of it.
thats why i modified mine with clips which release the line with the minimum amount of effort from a taking fish.

The way Kell showed us last night they can't fail to open And with the slightest of pulls !!
Your must have been faulty Rob

adie1200 wrote:The way Kell showed us last night they can't fail to open And with the slightest of pulls !!
Your must have been faulty Rob

yeah probably mate lol

I'm of the same opinion as Rob.

It's down to the force required. When they're set up on the bank and you give the line a tug they open smoothly but when your rig is out the force required seems different because they DO fail to open. Not all the time. But enough to matter.

I apprecaite everyone doing their best to convince us we may have our set ups wrong or maybe even faulty gates but I'm happy with my set up and there is no going back for me now

i cut mine up and fitted solar heads they work perfect now

finally got some pics of my modifications!!! here's an outer shot to show just how i set mine up



this ones a close up shot of the modified head.

i've been using them like this for the last year and the clips are set with just enough tension to hold, and yet as soon as a pike even looks at the bait the clip releases and the alarm sounds!!

Used them as described today with the hinge mechanism on the bottom side. Worked perfectly, 2 runs, 2 fish

robh107 wrote:

finally got some pics of my modifications!!! here's an outer shot to show just how i set mine up



this ones a close up shot of the modified head.

i've been using them like this for the last year and the clips are set with just enough tension to hold, and yet as soon as a pike even looks at the bait the clip releases and the alarm sounds!!

nice work Rob good pics well explained

nice mods rohb but remember the no nameing policy that weed on the left is a blinding give away

Nice mod Rob.
I was wondering how the finished item looked.

I've been doing some research into the Fox drop off indicators.....

The original version was invented by a Mark Houghton (PAC member) who had a friend pass a couple on to Mick Brown. Browny was so impressed he asked if he could adapt the design for the Fox range.
He agreed but Mark has recently quoted on a forum that "unfortunately the Fox designs had too small a gate and the resistance free aspect was lost."
Mark has now decided to produce and sell his own version as he wanted them to be.
There has been a few adaptations since the 1st model but production is in full flow!
In fact on several occasions he has had to stop orders coming in so he could catch up!



And now you know!

I too, have seen the info you've put on here nightwatchman. Was a very interesting read at the time. Wasn't he going to sell them for a fiver or summat?

One thing that I have noticed. Robh has the alarms with attached indicator that uses a wire. Could this be where his problems have arisen from?

As the pike takes the bait, it will take up any slack in the wire before pulling on the gate. Is this the reason why they fail to give a proper indication?

The ones that are on a rod are rigid so therefore any line movement will show straight away?

I could be wrong.

nightwatchman wrote:I've been doing some research into the Fox drop off indicators.....

The original version was invented by a Mark Houghton (PAC member) who had a friend pass a couple on to Mick Brown. Browny was so impressed he asked if he could adapt the design for the Fox range.
He agreed but Mark has recently quoted on a forum that "unfortunately the Fox designs had too small a gate and the resistance free aspect was lost."
Mark has now decided to produce and sell his own version as he wanted them to be.
There has been a few adaptations since the 1st model but production is in full flow!
In fact on several occasions he has had to stop orders coming in so he could catch up!



And now you know!

im the friend that passed them onto mick brown another little known fact about the foxs ones when mick recieved his preproduction models they were spot on (his words not mine ) but the higher rarky that exists at fox decided to put stronger springs on the line gate for the production models so making them a pain in the rear end mark now sells his for 8 quid each

lefty,
I'm not sure mate?
I've never used those alarms before but I'd imagine the wire coming from the alarm is made of a stiff material. it looks like there may be slack to take up but I think its that bendable stuff and the slightest movement will set off the alarm.

Wolfie.
I knew it was you mate but didn't want to say. lol
I think 8 quid is a bargain. I'm surprised he can keep up with production on his kitchen table!