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Post  Sandy on Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:07 pm

Advice please guys...I've read alot about the use of mackeral oil with deads. Was wondering wether shrimp paste or belachan mixed with cod liver oil would have the same effect? Question
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Post  stubbo on Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:43 pm

Sandy wrote:Advice please guys...I've read alot about the use of mackeral oil with deads. Was wondering wether shrimp paste or belachan mixed with cod liver oil would have the same effect? Question
hi sandy i have good faith in useing oils i dont think shrimp paste would last long on a deadbait give it a go you never know What a Face What a Face What a Face
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Post  Martinkilp on Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:26 pm

I have used many different types of oils, winterised salmon oil, herring oil, mackeral oil, red lamprey oil the list goes on but have found the most successful being pilchard oils.

Have also tried the predator attractant that you brush onto the bait and let dry for a few minutes but not had a single run with it.

I have thought about trying cod liver oil capsules inserted into a bait but not yet got round to it, let us know how you get on with your experimental shrimp cocktail, you could try freezing it into a bait then letting it defrost once cast out Smile

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Post  tootall on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:25 pm

I have injected baits with all kinds of stuff in the past - oil from tins of tuna is one of my faves along with that really stinky thai fish sauce you can get.

I think the shrimp paste would wash off quickly unless it was inserted inside the fish somehow.

If you ever get fresh unpeeled prawns, try this: (sorry if it sounds a bit cheffy but i used to be one Smile
Take off the shells/heads etc and put about half a litre of oil in a pan and warm (not fry) it whilst mashing in all the prawn bits - let it simmer really gently for a while whilst you continue to mash it with a potato masher and then let it cool overnight.
In the morning seive off the prawn shells and you are left with a really potent prawn oil Very Happy

The last lot i did lasted me a whole season and i think helped me catch some nice fish. Cool

With anything like that - if you think it will work, give it a go, you never know! Very Happy
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Post  bull on Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:17 pm

a lot of oils are ok for use and freezing into the bait then when you thaw out the bait it pulls the oil in more, but because they dont have preservtives there shelf life is short, and wintererised oils contain a emulsifer which dont like freezing at low temperatures, the normal mix is 75% oil to 25% flavour, when injecting oil in the bait place it on the ground not on your hand, also once you cast out leave it there has it will leave a scent trail for the pike to home in on hopefuly, that way you dont leave aload of scent trails all over the water, then you can use your 2nd rod to try and find where the pike are laid up, through wobbling, and fishing to feature,s if any and trying different depths, also when using oil does it enhance and give the natural oil of the fish a boost or just mask the bait used.
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Post  stubbo on Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:50 pm

better putting shrimp paste on a nice water biscuit with a nice drop of red wine maybe a muscat Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  bull on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:55 am

its better on a bit of toast tri-angler shape mounted on a size 6 hook ideal for perch fishing with abit of chilli oil mixed in the paste, or chili powder the hot stuff.
ps goes well with a great white, watch it does,nt bite your fingers off. Smile

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Post  stubbo on Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:19 pm

bull wrote:its better on a bit of toast tri-angler shape mounted on a size 6 hook ideal for perch fishing with abit of chilli oil mixed in the paste, or chili powder the hot stuff.
ps goes well with a great white, watch it does,nt bite your fingers off. Smile
brilliant stuff muck
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Post  bull on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:55 pm

no probs young,n Smile

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