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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:34 pm

its years since i used a livebait. i,m just not really comfortable doing it. but i would if it was the only way to get a pike on a difficult water. all my big pike have fallen to deads.

anyone else a bit iffy bout using livvies ?
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:55 pm

NO. I use them all the time. TBH most of my twenties have came from deads but theres something about a livebait that just gives you the edge on a slow day. Some of the trout waters i fish deads are snaffeled up by the pesky troot before the pike get anywhere near them. Its an ongoing argument that will never go away about wether its right to use lives or not. Its illegal in scotland and wales to use them but at the moment its still okay in england and untill that changes im gonna keep using them.

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Post  hurricane on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:59 pm

I often fish both lives and deads(subject to catching a few) and have no qualms whatsoever,but I am reluctant to fish a livie over 8oz, I just feel its unfair to the non predator anglers who fish the water,a few small livies should have little or no impact on a water but I have seen anglers using lb+ roach and imho this is out of order.
I was snatching on a 4mtr whip to hand last week and had a succession of perch from 12oz to a pound and a half and it was great fun and to some a 1.5lb perch is along the lines of a mid double pike to me,so they all went back and I had a couple to the deads so didn"t mind.
Lets face it we are the first one to scream and shout if pike in any water are killed.


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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:01 pm

Yea i wouldnt use anything that big.....

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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:02 pm

if i was to use a livvie, it would only be 4oz or so. i have seen people using ridiculous size roach and i have voiced my opinion at them onlY to be told to go forth and multiply ! educated people there were, NOT !!
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Post  matt859 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:19 pm

I would use live baits if I could catch them first but I very rarely get the chance to. Deads are far more convenient for me.
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Post  plumb68 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:24 pm

I used one once, felt bad about putting hooks in the poor little thing lol, so i dont bother
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Post  creamcake007 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:31 pm

you'll slam two size 6 trebles in to a pikes mouth, but putting a livie on seems wrong ????? Rolling Eyes
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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:36 pm

now you mention it creamcake, it does sound a bit daft. for some reason, i hadnt thought of it like that ! good point made.
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Post  creamcake007 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:45 pm

Its the old,Do fish feel pain thing Sad if i stuck a hook in someone's arm and yanked real hard which way would they go ???? .towards me of coarse, which way does a fish go!!! it fights like hell in the opposite direction Question Exclamation nuf said Very Happy
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Post  big_d2008 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:38 pm

Never used a livebait as none of thewaters I fish allow it, although I know a few guys do as i have seen supposed dead bait floats bobbing up and down and the guys not bothering with them the cheeky buggers.
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Post  bigt on Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:00 pm

i dont mind using livebaits the pike eat them wether they're on your trebles or not so its not an issue for me,after all it is a fish eat fish world out there
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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:02 pm

when i previously used livvies years back, what i found deadly was using a snap tackle with two livvies on. one on the front treble mouth hooked, and same on the rear.

anyone else tried this, if not you wanna give it a go. the takes are electric !! santa santa rendeer
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Post  bigt on Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:06 pm

ive done this with sprats but never livies maybe worth a go tho as 1 of the lakes i fish is stuffed full with 2to3inch silvers
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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:10 pm

i reckon you,d be onto a winner bigt if you gave it a go at that venue. let us know how you get on if you try it.

it works, trust me ! santa rendeer
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Post  bigt on Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:37 pm

will do doug im out fishing saturday and sunday so will let you know the result mate
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Post  doug6364 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:53 pm

okee dokee m8. just give me all the credit you can if its a big bugger !! lol! lol! lol!

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Post  plumb68 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:01 pm

creamcake007 wrote:you'll slam two size 6 trebles in to a pikes mouth, but putting a livie on seems wrong ????? Rolling Eyes

yes i know it seems wrong, thats why i put lol Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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