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Post  Lefty Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:33 pm

Bazz wrote:Must say the 42" net & 6 foot handle seemed overkill!

I know what you mean mate, I'm in the same boat regards lure fishing.

Just wish I could afford a rubber coated lure net with collapsible handle.
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Post  Bazz Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:38 pm

The 2 chaps i talked to both had rubberized boat nets (they are the same two i saw fishing on the Trent near me in a boat on Saturday, i found out..). The nets were oval & only about 20", they reckoned they cost about £20 a net, looked a bit small for Pike to me..

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Post  Lefty Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:50 pm

20" does seem a bit small. Like the price though, all the ones I've looked at cost about a squillion quid plus your left leg plus VAT.
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Post  Bazz Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:06 pm

They had quite a coarse mesh, Knitted NOT Knotted in a light green material which was pretty stiff

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Post  esoxjeff Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:01 am

Bazz & Lefty
ron thomson (i don't usually buy) do a cheap rubberised net.
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Post  Lefty Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:23 am

Thanx jeff I'll look it up.
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Post  esoxjeff Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:41 pm

i think i got mine from tackleshop gainsborough. Smile
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Post  jimmy Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:38 pm

[quote="esoxjeff"]Hi Lefty i don't know where AM gets his info from , but i found braid will resist abrasion more than any mono made.
mono is made with (polymer 6)where braid is made from (polymer 6/6)as used in Gortex.[/quote ] Suspect mono is 100% more forgiving than braid over rough and rocky structures, ,it is also seems to be a well known fact among anglers , when i got back to pike fishing a couple of years ago i went on the forums ect and heard the same pros & cons of using braid , the main being braids not so good over rough ground especially rough shelves, i never took much notice though and found out the hard way , some of my favourite waters have plenty shelves,so i have had first hand experience , whereas you dont have shelves in the flatlands Wink
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Post  jimmy Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:49 pm

forgot to mention , im sure i have came across some line i think one is shimano technium and the purpose of it is best of both worlds in that it has the no stretch qualities of braid but the abrasion resisting quality of mono,
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Post  Bazz Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:26 pm

I have investigated further.... the nets used on the Fox DVD (FOX of course Rolling Eyes ) by Dave Kelbrick are the Fox Predator & the Fox Predator Boat. I have found out that they are now discontinued Rolling Eyes (Tim Aplin of Matchman Supplies enquired). However........Korum do one, 30" oval with Latex coated mesh at £20....bargain. As the Forum's foremost 'Tackle Tart', i now have one Laughing Piking Pirate is sure to follow... Laughing Razz
The existing net i have is 6 months old & looks like Moths have been at it Laughing Razz Phil at Matchman is a regular Piker, he reckons rubber coated mesh is better but not completely treble barbed hook proof..
I have to renew the hooks on my Finnish Minnow, are semi-barbless acceptable on a lure?









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Post  jimmy Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:19 pm

dave lumb does rubber nets for piking, visit = dl specialist tackle
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Post  Andy Webster Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:52 pm

The SPRO Rubber landing net provided by Baxter Angling was featured recently in one of the mags.

http://www.baxterangling.com/product.php?prodid=330

It looks decent. Temporarily out of stock though.

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Post  Bazz Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:06 pm

The net is just like the one i have just bought, i have a telescopic handle fitted to make it suitable for bank fishing

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Post  Bazz Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:51 am

[img]re 40lb braid - Page 2 Korumrubbernet[/img]

This is the 30" Korum net

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Post  noodle Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:53 am

lumbys are not rubberised meshes but do stand up well in comparison. the spro net is good but the very short handle length lets it down slightly..

as for braid and shelves two points from me

1st using the same diameter of braid as you would mono all but removes the abrasion issue.
2nd some areas the particular type of rock you are fishing over does preclude the use of braid these for me will be areas with rocks that tend to be sharp so things like slate etc will see me reaching for the mono instead of braid, also artificial shelves such as ford escorts etc tend to be better suited to the use of mono.
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Post  Andy Macfarlane Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:50 pm

esoxjeff wrote:Hi Lefty i don't know where AM gets his info from , but i found braid will resist abrasion more than any mono made.

Tell you what. I'll start a thread on P&P and see what the outcome is.

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Post  deadbait Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:35 pm

it is well known braid is no good with abrasion thats why people always use mono leaders when reef fishing Laughing
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Post  Andy Macfarlane Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:35 pm

Not one to argue...lol...so I started a couple of polls. Make of them what you will.

Click HERE for Angler's net poll

Click HERE for Pike and Predators poll

.....Andy.....
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Post  jimmy Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:36 pm

Andy Macfarlane wrote:Not one to argue...lol...so I started a couple of polls. Make of them what you will.

Click HERE for Angler's net poll

Click HERE for Pike and Predators poll

.....Andy.....




cheers cheers cheers cheers
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Post  robh107 Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:19 pm

ok guys.... i think it's safe to say that to test braid against mono for abrasion resistance in a fair and decisive manner it must be done with braid and mono of the same diameter (if it is done on a basis of like-for-like breaking strain then the test will become unfair because the tested braid will be much thinner than the tested mono).
has anyone done such a test as outlined above?? and if so what were the results??
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Post  Andy Macfarlane Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:02 pm

Diameter-wise I don't know myself. (Note: I did ask about that very point on P&P) I was hoping someone on another forum would have something conclusive to say..which may still happen. At the moment I'd lean towards mono for durability.
I know one thing mind you. Braid isn't cheap and given the option of fishing over a shelf with mono off a bulk-spool and braid, I'll go for the cheap option.
With that in mind, would anyone care to put the subject to the test? It's an experiment I won't be carrying out in a hurry. I'm still using the same batch of braid 5 years on and I'm no hurry to replace it for the sake of an experiment.

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Post  nickcarpy Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:44 pm

andy do you use your braid for a season then put it on a spare spool an use it again?that so you use both ends of braid.going back to braid an mono,i was fishing river ebro in spain ,the part i was fishing was a flooded village at one time.anyway it was snagging with sharp roof tiles ,bricks an glass,general rubble.startd with braid but kept been cut of so went onto mono anyway mono was better.for me mono is better on shelves ect but braid for snags.horse;s for course;s as they say Smile
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Post  greg Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:13 pm

all in all, i think the wee video said it all....
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Post  Bazz Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:14 pm

It now seems pretty obvious that Mono is more abrasion resistant than Braid.

Well presented, Andy... Smile

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Post  Andy Macfarlane Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:24 pm

nickcarpy wrote:andy do you use your braid for a season then put it on a spare spool an use it again?Smile

Theoretically, that's the smart way to do it but if you're really anal, like I am with my bait fishing gear, then you can get 3-4-5 YEARS out of a batch BEFORE you reverse it.
My rods are always made up, with treble guards on the hooks and then packed up in a holdall. The end of my braid has a Berkley Cross-Lok on it so I can change traces and take the trace off when unhooking, rather than carrying a rod to the unhooking area. As long as I don't encounter any rocks or any funny hookups which result in line damage, I'll leave the snap-link on until I think the braid has had enough and then I'll only cut it back as need be. I've got some 50lb Power Pro on which I think might be more than 5 years old (who knows?) and I have no plans to reverse it yet. It's actually still got a fairly liberal helping of coating left on it.
If I did as much piking these days as I once did or would like to, I would probably say reverse it after a year or two as you suggest.

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