Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
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Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
I want to start spicing my deadbait up, whats the best Flavors/Oils to use, do certain flavours/Oils get better results in different seasons of the year.
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
hi caveman
i tried alot last year with different oils, tuna, hallibut, smelt, predetor plus, you name it i tried it............. did it make a differnce? who knows.
but to be honest, the best and cheapest oil i found, was in morrisons , good old fish sauce
i tried alot last year with different oils, tuna, hallibut, smelt, predetor plus, you name it i tried it............. did it make a differnce? who knows.
but to be honest, the best and cheapest oil i found, was in morrisons , good old fish sauce
dave78- Posts : 123
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Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
salmon oil
all year round.
all year round.
tootall- Posts : 1339
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dave78 wrote:hi caveman
i tried alot last year with different oils, tuna, hallibut, smelt, predetor plus, you name it i tried it............. did it make a differnce? who knows.
but to be honest, the best and cheapest oil i found, was in morrisons , good old fish sauce
"is that the stir fry stuff"
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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I'v read, mixing the oil or flavor with milk, 50/50, it suppose to help the additives disperse better and creates a visible cloud, also inserting an Alka -Saltzer tablet into the dead bait, the fizzing of the tab makes the bait twitch, especially popped up bait, you ever tried it?
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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Theres only one oil I'd put on a Deadbait and its these;
http://www.eddieturner.co.uk/pike-tackle/Oils-20-1
The Best.
http://www.eddieturner.co.uk/pike-tackle/Oils-20-1
The Best.
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Do i oils make a difference ?? who knows!! but if it give you confidence to use it then use it .
I have to say i,ve not seen any significant difference in results and to be honest it would be difficult to say whether is does, but is can,t hurt to have oils releasing into the flow to hopefully draw the predator to your bait ,but just make sure its a winterised oil
I have to say i,ve not seen any significant difference in results and to be honest it would be difficult to say whether is does, but is can,t hurt to have oils releasing into the flow to hopefully draw the predator to your bait ,but just make sure its a winterised oil
tackle tart- Posts : 431
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cavemandom wrote:dave78 wrote:hi caveman
i tried alot last year with different oils, tuna, hallibut, smelt, predetor plus, you name it i tried it............. did it make a differnce? who knows.
but to be honest, the best and cheapest oil i found, was in morrisons , good old fish sauce
"is that the stir fry stuff"
the very same stuff, i've found it as strong and oily as any branded oil , and great value for money.
also, i sometimes fish a maggot feeder rather than a lead, filling it with chopped fish and injected with oil, just to add scent into my swim, again, might not make a differnce, but gives me hope
dave78- Posts : 123
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fish oils
i use chopped up rabbit livers and chopped up sardines in an open ended feeder and found this to work well
Rich- Posts : 3
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Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
oils dont really work as an attractor they are not soluble in water
most oils in bait are there for food value
they do have a use though with dead baits bar the extra food value
if anything disturbs your bait added oil certainly alerts you to it
anyway my oil of choice
http://www.robinsons-uk.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=76206&campaign=Basefeed
you can get it cheaper that is just the shop near me
also check out the codlivine
any old hands at carping remember that one
most oils in bait are there for food value
they do have a use though with dead baits bar the extra food value
if anything disturbs your bait added oil certainly alerts you to it
anyway my oil of choice
http://www.robinsons-uk.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=76206&campaign=Basefeed
you can get it cheaper that is just the shop near me
also check out the codlivine
any old hands at carping remember that one
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do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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ive heard he uses a lot of baby oil
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cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
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cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
Yes, I use Eddies oils on most of my deads.
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noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
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Has anyone tried those paint on flavours?
http://www.dynamitebaits.com/index.php?id=878&usergroup=specimen
They should interest anyone looking to spice up their deadbaits.
It shouldn't be too hard to make something like this up, especially for the experienced carpers amongst us. Dip the deadbait before freezing. Just remember to do it when the missus is out.
Andy
http://www.dynamitebaits.com/index.php?id=878&usergroup=specimen
They should interest anyone looking to spice up their deadbaits.
It shouldn't be too hard to make something like this up, especially for the experienced carpers amongst us. Dip the deadbait before freezing. Just remember to do it when the missus is out.
Andy
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AndyOBrien. wrote:noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
I have read that mixing with milk 50/50 helps to disperse the oils better..
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
i think it's more of a visual attractant i think i have heard a similar thing, but with milk??????cavemandom wrote:AndyOBrien. wrote:noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
I have read that mixing with milk 50/50 helps to disperse the oils better..
Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
MrMakk wrote:i think it's more of a visual attractant i think i have heard a similar thing, but with milk??????cavemandom wrote:AndyOBrien. wrote:noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
I have read that mixing with milk 50/50 helps to disperse the oils better..
Ming oil is is a very light oil and disperses evenly and quickly, even in cold water, it does not thicken in cold water like heavier oils, it's also made up with a blend of ming and vegtable oil...
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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Re: Best Flavours/Oils for Deadbait
cavemandom wrote:AndyOBrien. wrote:noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
I have read that mixing with milk 50/50 helps to disperse the oils better..
makes more sense than you may have given it credit for milk is an emulsion, and as such is full of emulsifiers
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noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:AndyOBrien. wrote:noodle wrote:cavemandom wrote:do you use oils Andy?AndyOBrien. wrote:Emulsified, water soluble oils do.
true and how many of those are there?
consider this as well most emulsifiers that can be used are not the nicest of chemicals (nutrabaits use only one emulsifier for that reason) and also rely on temprature in a good few cases
use oils it wont do you any harm but think and really think about what they do achieve
flaavours on the other hand especially EA ones work as an attractor weather for pike (when piking this) or on silver fish that then attract pike ive no idea and couldnt prove one way or another
Granted there isn't many, I use what I believe to be the best.
I have read that mixing with milk 50/50 helps to disperse the oils better..
makes more sense than you may have given it credit for milk is an emulsion, and as such is full of emulsifiers
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cavemandom- Posts : 153
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theirs a good write up on oils and flavors on Bainton Fisheries site, click the link
http://www.baintonfisheries.co.uk/articles/livendead.htm
http://www.baintonfisheries.co.uk/articles/livendead.htm
cavemandom- Posts : 153
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some carpers use condensed milk in spod mixes,it causes a cloud around bait
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just got back from the PAC convention at Kettering, I picked up some Haggis oil, I bought it from Nev Ficklings stall, 100% water soluble, and it's concentrated, it absolutely hum's...
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