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Post  Andy Macfarlane Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:58 pm

You should really try Kalium Aniseed oil on freshwater baits. Don't worry that you bait will smell like a sweet shop. The pike absolutely love this stuff. The Winterized salmon oil is very good also for freshwater baits, especially wee brown trout and the smelt oil is very good on any sea baits.
For the Aniseed oil, use about 1-2 mls per bait...that's all. It's very strong.
For the salmon and the smelt oil, use about 5mls per bait.
Just stab the baits in the flank a few times, insert the needle carefully into each cut and just push a little oil into them.

Tip!: Try buying a few large block-end feeders (2-3oz) and stuff them with cotton wool. Stick a syringe/needle full of oil into the feeder and soak the cotton wool. Just use the feeders as you normally would your weights for leger rigs etc. Every time you retrieve your bait, give your bait and the feeder a little top up. You won't need as much to refresh them. Just enough to liven them up is enough. When you're done with the feeder at the end of your day, slip it into a little grip-seal bag for your next session and recharge with oil before use again. After a few sessions, the feeder will become really sticky, jammy looking but most of all....SMELLY!! and believe me when I say, it really helps the pike locate your bait, especially in dirty water or during the night.
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Post  bigchris Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:18 pm

ive been using a similar thing to that,a small maggot feeder with a tampon in it(yes thats what i said)i knew my missus would contribute to me fishing somehow lol.use it as ledger weight and soak it in nam pla. Wink

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Post  JOEL Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:04 pm

don't rate that dynamite bait stuff,Bait box eel oil is good.Don't reckon much to there mackrel though.
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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:59 pm

What do you all reckon to Predator Plus? Any good?
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Post  t7ommy Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:08 pm

The pike absolutely love this stuff. The Winterized salmon oil is very good also for freshwater baits, especially wee brown trout and the smelt oil is very good on any sea baits.

i have heard alot about this im defo going to give it a try ive not botherd with it before

thanx andy
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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:12 pm

i do use it quite a bit, just wondered what everyones opinion of it was. I tend to draw all the blood out of the bottom of my dead bait bags at the end of a session, add it to the predator plus and keep it in my fishing fridge until next time. Seems to work ok.
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Post  nickcarpy Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:19 pm

i was tryed blood from a mate at abbartor,we froze it in fridge in my mums ice cube tray.she went barmy.fond memorys from yesteryear.caught at time.anybody else with tales from yesteryear that might get a chuckle? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  bigchris Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:13 pm

predator plus fantastic for eels and perch,crap for pike,

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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:20 pm

Really, i`ve always seemed to do ok with it, might have done better without. What do you suggest using?
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Post  bigchris Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:22 pm

grahambrooke wrote:Really, i`ve always seemed to do ok with it, might have done better without. What do you suggest using?
evrything ive caught has had bait filled with nampla(fish sauce) pirat

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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:25 pm

Nampla, i`ve never heard of that, where would i get some? anyone else use this?
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Post  Lefty Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:26 pm

I been thinking of going to the fish market and buying up any old bits of crap they got left. Take it home and blitz it through the liquidizer. (don't tell our lass though Twisted Evil ) Then pour it into 35mm film canisters or similar and freeze them.

When I go piking, take them with me and use them as 'groundbait' or put them into a large feeder. As they melt they will release the oils and blood into the water and hopefully attract Mr and Mrs Esox.

What's everybody's thoughts on this? Reckon it would work or not?
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Post  bigchris Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:29 pm

did that mate.bag of sprats chinese party squid and pigs liver.blew the bloody blender didnt defrost it properly

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Post  Lefty Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:30 pm

bigchris wrote:blew the bloody blender didnt defrost it properly

OOPS !!

How did you explain that to the missus?
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Post  bigchris Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:31 pm

grahambrooke wrote:Nampla, i`ve never heard of that, where would i get some? anyone else use this?
you get it at morrisons 63p a bottle its a thai fish sauce for cooking Cool

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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:32 pm

tried it once myself, got it everywhere, i smelled lovely, NOT. UUUGGHH
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Post  MAD BAD ANGLER Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:18 pm

if you try freezing mashed up fish to through in, make sure you put a stone in the middle BEFORE you freeze it. if not when you through it in it will float!!!!. i did it once, spent hours blitzing fish, stuffing film cases, only to have them float away when i through them in. all the best guys THE MAD BAD (SOMETIMES DAFT) ANGLER lol! lol! lol!

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Post  Andy Macfarlane Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:42 pm

bigchris wrote:predator plus fantastic for eels and perch,crap for pike,

Thank you!!
I thought it was just me. I tried this stuff extensively on several venues for the best part of a year and I swear it's like a pike repellent. I can't actually recall catching any pike (maybe one or two but nothing memorable) with it whatsoever but it's probably the best eel attractor ever made.
It pulls them in from all directions and it it wasn't a one off scenario. It happened everywhere I tried it (that had eels of course) and once they arrived, I couldn't get fishing for the blighters munching at my baits.
In the end, I threw it out in anger because it didn't do what I bought it for and at the time, I didn't really like eels. Now I wish I had kept it because I quite like the idea of catching some big eels now.
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Post  grahambrooke Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:49 pm

Very intersting, might not bother with it any more then in my pike sessions.
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Post  Lefty Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:07 pm

mad bad angler wrote:make sure you put a stone in the middle BEFORE you freeze it. if not when you through it in it will float!!!!

Good point madbad, ice actually is less dense than water. That's why icebergs are on the top of the water Rolling Eyes

Now why didn't I think of that before.
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Post  bigchris Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:44 am

there is also that stuff called liquid worm which i more or less the same,got more betane in it.thats just as bad for attracting the wrong stuff Cool

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Post  Andy Macfarlane Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:38 pm

Oddly enough Van Den Eynde's Liquid Pellet is good for Pike because it's basically halibut oil.
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Post  fatcaff Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:40 pm

I know this is a pretty old but thread but does any1 know where i can get the kalium aniseed oil from i've had a look online but only end up with other forums talking about it with no info on where to get it Mad
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Post  Andy Macfarlane Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:54 pm

Em...Anglers Rendezvous mate. That's where I always got it.

Surely Country Sports would order it in for you? That's where I go for all my tenchy pellets n stuff, so he's not beyond ordering unusual items.
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