Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
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Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
You should really try Kalium Aniseed oil on freshwater baits. Don't worry that you bait will smell like a sweet shop. The pike absolutely love this stuff. The Winterized salmon oil is very good also for freshwater baits, especially wee brown trout and the smelt oil is very good on any sea baits.
For the Aniseed oil, use about 1-2 mls per bait...that's all. It's very strong.
For the salmon and the smelt oil, use about 5mls per bait.
Just stab the baits in the flank a few times, insert the needle carefully into each cut and just push a little oil into them.
Tip!: Try buying a few large block-end feeders (2-3oz) and stuff them with cotton wool. Stick a syringe/needle full of oil into the feeder and soak the cotton wool. Just use the feeders as you normally would your weights for leger rigs etc. Every time you retrieve your bait, give your bait and the feeder a little top up. You won't need as much to refresh them. Just enough to liven them up is enough. When you're done with the feeder at the end of your day, slip it into a little grip-seal bag for your next session and recharge with oil before use again. After a few sessions, the feeder will become really sticky, jammy looking but most of all....SMELLY!! and believe me when I say, it really helps the pike locate your bait, especially in dirty water or during the night.
For the Aniseed oil, use about 1-2 mls per bait...that's all. It's very strong.
For the salmon and the smelt oil, use about 5mls per bait.
Just stab the baits in the flank a few times, insert the needle carefully into each cut and just push a little oil into them.
Tip!: Try buying a few large block-end feeders (2-3oz) and stuff them with cotton wool. Stick a syringe/needle full of oil into the feeder and soak the cotton wool. Just use the feeders as you normally would your weights for leger rigs etc. Every time you retrieve your bait, give your bait and the feeder a little top up. You won't need as much to refresh them. Just enough to liven them up is enough. When you're done with the feeder at the end of your day, slip it into a little grip-seal bag for your next session and recharge with oil before use again. After a few sessions, the feeder will become really sticky, jammy looking but most of all....SMELLY!! and believe me when I say, it really helps the pike locate your bait, especially in dirty water or during the night.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
feeders
ive been using a similar thing to that,a small maggot feeder with a tampon in it(yes thats what i said)i knew my missus would contribute to me fishing somehow lol.use it as ledger weight and soak it in nam pla.
bigchris- Posts : 199
Join date : 2008-09-19
Age : 48
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
don't rate that dynamite bait stuff,Bait box eel oil is good.Don't reckon much to there mackrel though.
JOEL- Posts : 25
Join date : 2008-09-02
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
What do you all reckon to Predator Plus? Any good?
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
Join date : 2008-11-08
Age : 50
Location : South Kirkby, Wakefield.
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
The pike absolutely love this stuff. The Winterized salmon oil is very good also for freshwater baits, especially wee brown trout and the smelt oil is very good on any sea baits.
i have heard alot about this im defo going to give it a try ive not botherd with it before
thanx andy
i have heard alot about this im defo going to give it a try ive not botherd with it before
thanx andy
t7ommy- Posts : 16
Join date : 2008-10-24
Location : ashbourne, derbyshire
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
i do use it quite a bit, just wondered what everyones opinion of it was. I tend to draw all the blood out of the bottom of my dead bait bags at the end of a session, add it to the predator plus and keep it in my fishing fridge until next time. Seems to work ok.
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
Join date : 2008-11-08
Age : 50
Location : South Kirkby, Wakefield.
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
i was tryed blood from a mate at abbartor,we froze it in fridge in my mums ice cube tray.she went barmy.fond memorys from yesteryear.caught at time.anybody else with tales from yesteryear that might get a chuckle?
nickcarpy- Posts : 1717
Join date : 2008-11-03
Age : 51
Location : hatfield doncaster
oils and addatives
predator plus fantastic for eels and perch,crap for pike,
bigchris- Posts : 199
Join date : 2008-09-19
Age : 48
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
Really, i`ve always seemed to do ok with it, might have done better without. What do you suggest using?
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
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Location : South Kirkby, Wakefield.
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evrything ive caught has had bait filled with nampla(fish sauce)grahambrooke wrote:Really, i`ve always seemed to do ok with it, might have done better without. What do you suggest using?
bigchris- Posts : 199
Join date : 2008-09-19
Age : 48
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
Nampla, i`ve never heard of that, where would i get some? anyone else use this?
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
Join date : 2008-11-08
Age : 50
Location : South Kirkby, Wakefield.
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
I been thinking of going to the fish market and buying up any old bits of crap they got left. Take it home and blitz it through the liquidizer. (don't tell our lass though ) Then pour it into 35mm film canisters or similar and freeze them.
When I go piking, take them with me and use them as 'groundbait' or put them into a large feeder. As they melt they will release the oils and blood into the water and hopefully attract Mr and Mrs Esox.
What's everybody's thoughts on this? Reckon it would work or not?
When I go piking, take them with me and use them as 'groundbait' or put them into a large feeder. As they melt they will release the oils and blood into the water and hopefully attract Mr and Mrs Esox.
What's everybody's thoughts on this? Reckon it would work or not?
Lefty- Posts : 1297
Join date : 2008-08-26
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Location : Cadeby
ground bait
did that mate.bag of sprats chinese party squid and pigs liver.blew the bloody blender didnt defrost it properly
bigchris- Posts : 199
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Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
bigchris wrote:blew the bloody blender didnt defrost it properly
OOPS !!
How did you explain that to the missus?
Lefty- Posts : 1297
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Age : 54
Location : Cadeby
nampla
you get it at morrisons 63p a bottle its a thai fish sauce for cookinggrahambrooke wrote:Nampla, i`ve never heard of that, where would i get some? anyone else use this?
bigchris- Posts : 199
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Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
tried it once myself, got it everywhere, i smelled lovely, NOT. UUUGGHH
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
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if you try freezing mashed up fish to through in, make sure you put a stone in the middle BEFORE you freeze it. if not when you through it in it will float!!!!. i did it once, spent hours blitzing fish, stuffing film cases, only to have them float away when i through them in. all the best guys THE MAD BAD (SOMETIMES DAFT) ANGLER
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MAD BAD ANGLER- Posts : 1587
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Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
bigchris wrote:predator plus fantastic for eels and perch,crap for pike,
Thank you!!
I thought it was just me. I tried this stuff extensively on several venues for the best part of a year and I swear it's like a pike repellent. I can't actually recall catching any pike (maybe one or two but nothing memorable) with it whatsoever but it's probably the best eel attractor ever made.
It pulls them in from all directions and it it wasn't a one off scenario. It happened everywhere I tried it (that had eels of course) and once they arrived, I couldn't get fishing for the blighters munching at my baits.
In the end, I threw it out in anger because it didn't do what I bought it for and at the time, I didn't really like eels. Now I wish I had kept it because I quite like the idea of catching some big eels now.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
Very intersting, might not bother with it any more then in my pike sessions.
grahambrooke- Posts : 110
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Age : 50
Location : South Kirkby, Wakefield.
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
mad bad angler wrote:make sure you put a stone in the middle BEFORE you freeze it. if not when you through it in it will float!!!!
Good point madbad, ice actually is less dense than water. That's why icebergs are on the top of the water
Now why didn't I think of that before.
Lefty- Posts : 1297
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Location : Cadeby
addatives
there is also that stuff called liquid worm which i more or less the same,got more betane in it.thats just as bad for attracting the wrong stuff
bigchris- Posts : 199
Join date : 2008-09-19
Age : 48
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
Oddly enough Van Den Eynde's Liquid Pellet is good for Pike because it's basically halibut oil.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
I know this is a pretty old but thread but does any1 know where i can get the kalium aniseed oil from i've had a look online but only end up with other forums talking about it with no info on where to get it
fatcaff- Posts : 256
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Re: Tried and tested oils and how to use them.
Em...Anglers Rendezvous mate. That's where I always got it.
Surely Country Sports would order it in for you? That's where I go for all my tenchy pellets n stuff, so he's not beyond ordering unusual items.
Surely Country Sports would order it in for you? That's where I go for all my tenchy pellets n stuff, so he's not beyond ordering unusual items.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
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