Ledger Rig
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Ledger Rig
Thought I would share this little diagram made up on MS paint to try and help any new pikers. I knocked it up myself. I use it myself and it works for me but I am open to any criticism!
Pikey_Mike- Posts : 47
Join date : 2010-09-15
Age : 37
Location : South Lincs
Re: Ledger Rig
thats 1 easy way, but i wouldnt use that rig, i go this one, making sure the lead link is the weak link and longer than the trace
newie2010- Posts : 335
Join date : 2010-10-18
Age : 44
Location : sleaford
Re: Ledger Rig
The lead link is weaker on mine too, 6lb mono mate.
Pikey_Mike- Posts : 47
Join date : 2010-09-15
Age : 37
Location : South Lincs
Re: Ledger Rig
Pikey_Mike wrote:The lead link is weaker on mine too, 6lb mono mate.
i rarley fish straight lead for pike, im normally on the ledger float, BUT if i fished deep waters and large ressies, then i would use the rig shown above.
newie2010- Posts : 335
Join date : 2010-10-18
Age : 44
Location : sleaford
Re: Ledger Rig
Pikey_Mike wrote:Thought I would share this little diagram made up on MS paint to try and help any new pikers. I knocked it up myself. I use it myself and it works for me but I am open to any criticism!
go on id love to hear the reasoning behind a fixed lead for plain old ledgering especially with such light wire and heavy mono
newies is about as good and simple as it gets
Re: Ledger Rig
wouldn,t use the fixed one but would use the other but would put an uptrace just for extra safety just in case the trace was to lay over the main line, but thats just me
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tackle tart- Posts : 431
Join date : 2010-09-17
Location : norfolk
Re: Ledger Rig
i'm with Newie on this one,
i've used this set up, all the time if ledgering.
Never used a fixed lead, but thats just me
i've used this set up, all the time if ledgering.
Never used a fixed lead, but thats just me
BigSithepikeangler- Posts : 88
Join date : 2010-11-22
Age : 53
Location : west midlands
Re: Ledger Rig
Pikey_Mike wrote:Thought I would share this little diagram made up on MS paint to try and help any new pikers. I knocked it up myself. I use it myself and it works for me but I am open to any criticism!
I would never rig up a fixed lead. If the 18lb main line is broken the lead must be able to separate from the bait. I use the john roberts run rings to attach the lead.
Please don't use fix leads on your pike rigs. You will end up tethering a fish if the main line snaps.
Andy
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Re: Ledger Rig
plus i think that rig would be prone to tangling fished at distance tried most if not all rigs over the years newies rig is about the best tangle free rig the bait and the bomb seperate on flightAndy Webster wrote:Pikey_Mike wrote:Thought I would share this little diagram made up on MS paint to try and help any new pikers. I knocked it up myself. I use it myself and it works for me but I am open to any criticism!
I would never rig up a fixed lead. If the 18lb main line is broken the lead must be able to separate from the bait. I use the john roberts run rings to attach the lead.
Please don't use fix leads on your pike rigs. You will end up tethering a fish if the main line snaps.
Andy
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: Ledger Rig
There isn't really a reason to it bein fixed, but the tail rubber and sili tube is to try and form an improvised boom section to keep the lead away from the trace.
Gues I could incorporate the tail rubber and sili tube into a non fixed system, but the lead is attached with much lighter line than my main line, to try and prevent tethering.
EDIT: Also, Noodle, what's wrong with 20lb wire? I've never had it go on me...
Gues I could incorporate the tail rubber and sili tube into a non fixed system, but the lead is attached with much lighter line than my main line, to try and prevent tethering.
EDIT: Also, Noodle, what's wrong with 20lb wire? I've never had it go on me...
Pikey_Mike- Posts : 47
Join date : 2010-09-15
Age : 37
Location : South Lincs
Re: Ledger Rig
Pikey_Mike wrote:There isn't really a reason to it bein fixed, but the tail rubber and sili tube is to try and form an improvised boom section to keep the lead away from the trace.
Gues I could incorporate the tail rubber and sili tube into a non fixed system, but the lead is attached with much lighter line than my main line, to try and prevent tethering.
EDIT: Also, Noodle, what's wrong with 20lb wire? I've never had it go on me...
Cannot speak for noodle but i do not think he has a problem with the size of wire just the fact it is so close to breaking strain of line.?
sorry but i am with the others and i think what you have is a killer rig would NOT be allowed on carp waters of any repute and should never be used for pike.
I use newies rig and never seem to get tangled .
kell- Posts : 1001
Join date : 2009-01-03
Age : 61
Location : woodlands,doncaster
Re: Ledger Rig
Apart from the fact that the rig is not fish friendly I would have thought you may get quite a few dropped runs because the pike would feel the resistance from the lead. Most rigs aim to keep resistance to a minimum to avoid this problem.
Regards
J
Regards
J
JAYZEE28- Posts : 24
Join date : 2010-04-11
Age : 48
Location : Leicester
Re: Ledger Rig
newie2010 wrote:Pikey_Mike wrote:The lead link is weaker on mine too, 6lb mono mate.
i rarley fish straight lead for pike, im normally on the ledger float, BUT if i fished deep waters and large ressies, then i would use the rig shown above.
hey newie can you pop us up a nice diagram of your ledger float rig please,i used this on sunday for the first time and got into a bit of a mess with gauging the depth of my float ,then when casting out always seemed to tangle? hope you can help a new guy out all the best
mollski- Posts : 84
Join date : 2010-12-30
Age : 54
Re: Ledger Rig
This has got to be one of the most Pike safe rigs ever, As losing a weight is a lot better than losing the Pikenewie2010 wrote:thats 1 easy way, but i wouldnt use that rig, i go this one, making sure the lead link is the weak link and longer than the trace
Re: Ledger Rig
paddy pike wrote:This has got to be one of the most Pike safe rigs ever, As losing a weight is a lot better than losing the Pikenewie2010 wrote:thats 1 easy way, but i wouldnt use that rig, i go this one, making sure the lead link is the weak link and longer than the trace
totally agree with comments and rig, simple but effective
esoxjeff- Posts : 1171
Join date : 2008-09-09
Location : Doncaster
Re: Ledger Rig
mollski wrote:newie2010 wrote:Pikey_Mike wrote:The lead link is weaker on mine too, 6lb mono mate.
i rarley fish straight lead for pike, im normally on the ledger float, BUT if i fished deep waters and large ressies, then i would use the rig shown above.
hey newie can you pop us up a nice diagram of your ledger float rig please,i used this on sunday for the first time and got into a bit of a mess with gauging the depth of my float ,then when casting out always seemed to tangle? hope you can help a new guy out all the best
hey up fella, are you talking ledger float setup???
if you are, then its seriously easy mate, fish it OVER DEPTH by a foot.
if you dont know the depth your fishing in, then set up the ledger float as you would. Mine is this, in this order going on 1st.
bead / float / bead / weight / bead / swivel / kiwk link / snap tackle
once thats on, i then tie my stop knott over depth, on an unknown water i start 4ft over depth
newie2010- Posts : 335
Join date : 2010-10-18
Age : 44
Location : sleaford
Re: Ledger Rig
thats the thing keep it simple mateesoxjeff wrote:paddy pike wrote:This has got to be one of the most Pike safe rigs ever, As losing a weight is a lot better than losing the Pikenewie2010 wrote:thats 1 easy way, but i wouldnt use that rig, i go this one, making sure the lead link is the weak link and longer than the trace
totally agree with comments and rig, simple but effective
stubbo- Posts : 3976
Join date : 2010-01-14
Age : 61
Location : Warrington
Re: Ledger Rig
John Roberts leger-Ring (run-ring...whatever you call it)...paperclip...lead.
That's as simple as legering gets.
That's as simple as legering gets.
Andy Macfarlane- Posts : 1879
Join date : 2008-08-13
Location : Glasgow
Re: Ledger Rig
And that's exactly what I do, as reccomended by your good self Sir Andy of GlasgowAndy Macfarlane wrote:John Roberts leger-Ring (run-ring...whatever you call it)...paperclip...lead.
That's as simple as legering gets.
Lefty- Posts : 1297
Join date : 2008-08-26
Age : 54
Location : Cadeby
Asafe rig for dead bait
That set up is to complecated.The best set up is to use a running rig with a weight around 3 to 4 ounce so the pike cannot move the weight,if it does move the pike will drop the bait every time.The leader should be about 3 -5 inch longer than the trace.Put a few nots on the line so it will snap if caught up.I use line around 10lb on my 40lb braid main lines.
As you cast out you will see the weight and the bait seperate in the air.
The main thing is not to use a weight that is to light.The heavier the better.Coupled with a good drop back indicator this rig will never let you down..
As you cast out you will see the weight and the bait seperate in the air.
The main thing is not to use a weight that is to light.The heavier the better.Coupled with a good drop back indicator this rig will never let you down..
THETRUEPIKER- Posts : 4
Join date : 2011-01-17
Age : 52
Location : MANCHESTER
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