winter lure fishing

winter lure fishing? any tips guys?

as i've said before, i'm new to pike fishing this year, i have done spinning and lures in the past and caught a few small jacks, and this year have taken 4 on lures to 6lb, all october time, since then have stuck to deadbaits as some ' experts ' i know from my local say i wont catch on lures through the winter, but i LOVE chucking a lure out there as the takes are more thrilling! i will still dead bait but want to lure fish as well some days.
so is there any tips, tricks or techniques that i may have to do different to summer/autumn?
Mrmakk this maybe one for you

dave78 wrote:winter lure fishing? any tips guys?

as i've said before, i'm new to pike fishing this year, i have done spinning and lures in the past and caught a few small jacks, and this year have taken 4 on lures to 6lb, all october time, since then have stuck to deadbaits as some ' experts ' i know from my local say i wont catch on lures through the winter, but i LOVE chucking a lure out there as the takes are more thrilling! i will still dead bait but want to lure fish as well some days.
so is there any tips, tricks or techniques that i may have to do different to summer/autumn?
Mrmakk this maybe one for you

Dave,
People say luring is not good in the winter.....WRONG.......people say this because some people have done it during the summer when the bigger pike can swim around chasing their prey. (because they have the energy to and that it's not s**t weather to do it in)....whilst in the winter you are more likely to catch jacks that have energy still in them i went with bazz and the weather was s**t wind rain and cold, bazz seemed to have a a few bites.. i personally don't go for pike in the summer as in that time of the year i go on the waggler for anything that swims and spinning for perch at my local Lake...

There is a saying: "when the red(leaves) is out the carp angler retires for the winter and the pike angler comes into his own"

My advice is: try it out......you have nothing to loose

Allright mate,

Nearly all my pikeing last winter was with lures and I did really well. To be honest I caught a lot less "big" fish this summer compared to winter.

I found I caught better on a very slow retrieve just bouncing across the bottom. Thats not to say I didnt get anything further up in the water though. The takes werent half what they were in the summer with just a bump and a few seconds of decent fight.

As for lures, I caught most on my sinking Salmo Sliders in the brighter (Red/Fire Tiger) patterns probably due to the heavy colour in the rivers I fished. Savagear 10" 4play wouldnt be a bad start as they sink nice and slow and swim really well.

De-icer for rod rings as when it was really freezing mine filled with ice . It didnt seem to affect my braid and Im still using it a year later.

Cheers, CW

BTW Dave,

The 20 in my display pic was taken on a lure I think in late December. I remember my hands feeling as if they were going to fall off when I took my gloves off

i am verry intrested in lre fishing and is a surfise thrue any gd thru winter

thanks chaps, i thought i'd be able to catch on them, so your advise is always appreciated, my next trip will have my spinning rod set up as well.............. oh and when i said they where 'experts' i was using the term loosely

and would either of you guys recommend bulldogs?? they look great and the tail action must be a great attractant, but i'm not sure about them due to the sheer size!!!

dave78 wrote:and would either of you guys recommend bulldogs?? they look great and the tail action must be a great attractant, but i'm not sure about them due to the sheer size!!!

Bulldogs?
I have never heard of them

sorry

i'd leave the bulldawgs in the bag til the weather warms back up mate.
one tip i will give you is to fish lures that you can work slowly (i.e alphabet style plugs/big spinners). as it has already been stated the pike have less energy at this time of year so you have to slow things down to compensate. leave stuff like jerkbaits in the bag for now mate.

noted rob , was just a general question, not just winter really, have you usad them with any joy?? .............. have a search Makk you'll see what i mean about the size of em, even the baby ones look huge

Here is a Bulldawg

this is the one i've been watchin , think i'll invest in one for the warmer weather to come in the spring, worth a try

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BULLDOGS-BULLBOG-LURES-PIKE-LURES-FOX-LURES-FOX-FISHING_W0QQitemZ390079982228QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportsLeisure_Fishing_Lures_JN?hash=item5ad2942a94

http://www.thepikeshop.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=38&cat=Soft+Plastic+Lures


Here are some more, the prices are good too

To be honest mate, I used these a lot last winter and found them to be good. Take off the bottom trebbles if necessary and just slowly bounce it across the bottom.

I wouldnt say to avoid any lure types just because its winter. All I do is alter my retrieve patterns/depth/speed/etc to suit the conditions.

20 CM length! and i was asking bazz if the spoon i got was for sea fishing more than pike lureing

This gives you an idea of what a medium sized Pike can tackle..

Bazz wrote:

This gives you an idea of what a medium sized Pike can tackle..

OK I BELIEVE YOU!!!!12

i've also been looking at these since being told a pike will take a jack, they sink and can be drawn slowly at depth ..... scroll to the bottom for jack pike sosy, they look rather good

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sovereignsuperbaits.co.uk/Lures/Specialist/Sosy/Sosy_pike_frog.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sovereignsuperbaits.co.uk/Lures/Specialist/Sosy/sosy.html&usg=__rtOrBAIMZizhDVxomcnggJ2-d3Y=&h=764&w=600&sz=61&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=gTHOVLqJU8OnLM:&tbnh=142&tbnw=112&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsosy%2Blures%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG

The Savagear Shallow running Alien Eels are a good buy mate. Run shallower than most so dont snag up as much. Its in the title really

Hi guys
Im a newbie on here-Seasons greetings to you all , after seeing CW this week showing me( and letting me chuck his £15 lure) the 4 play in action im defo investing. Their fun just watching them work.
Hilux

well those sosy's look awesome dave, i think i've figured out what my next lure purchase is going to be
as for the bulldawgs the answer is no i have never actually used one, but i do have experience with other jerkbaits and i found that you have to fish them faster than traditional lipped plugs/lures to get them working properly..... meaning they'll probably be over the pikes head and away from them before the fish has a chance to react and take it in winter due to their more lethargic state.

robh107 wrote:well those sosy's look awesome dave, i think i've figured out what my next lure purchase is going to be
as for the bulldawgs the answer is no i have never actually used one, but i do have experience with other jerkbaits and i found that you have to fish them faster than traditional lipped plugs/lures to get them working properly..... meaning they'll probably be over the pikes head and away from them before the fish has a chance to react and take it in winter due to their more lethargic state.

not all jerkbaits are the same a lot are weighted so they hang in the strike zone for longer on my mantas i can smoke a full cig before its back to the bank some times just leaving the bait in one spot can get a pikes attention and as soon as you twich it bang fish on

good point deadbait..... i never said i had experience of alot of different jerkbaits hehe, but the ones i have tried fall into the category i said.

Bazz wrote:

Here is a Bulldawg

Bulldawgs are heavy lures, they sink like ...like ...like lead

I have a couple of Bulldawgs but I haven't got on with them. To fish them as slow as I like my lures to go they would be dragging across the bottom. Weed, snags and contours all mess up the retreive. I may just be fishing them wrong but they don't impress me for the waters that I fish (shallow).

I do like the slow sinking and floating jerkbaits though. They can be fished very slowly. And when I say very slowly I mean spending 5 minutes on a 40 yard retreive. This gives the pike plenty of time to size up and attack the prey. I caught several pike last winter with lures that were static or slowly sinking. I might be letting a secret out here but I have caught on lures that were resting on the bottom like a deadbait, in 12 inches of water, 4 yards from the bank, with me stood up in full view of the pike. I cast out and slowly retreved and when I saw a pike following I let it drift to the bottom and then just out waited the pike. It was nearly ten minutes before it sucked in the Savage Gear 4-play herring and it weighed 10lb 8oz. This date was 2nd March and it was cold.



Andy

if you get one of those sosy's before me Rob, PM me with the results mate.
i shall be going out this week with many types of lures in my bag, trying all to see what works best on my chosen water.
that why i love this forum, so much great advice and personal opinions, thanks guys