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Post  Andy Webster Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:38 pm

Hey everyone. I have just added a new article to the website on dead baits.

http://www.pikeangler.co.uk/pike-dead-baits/

Pleaae take a look and let me know what you think.

Are there any glaring ommisions or errors?

Do you like the content?

Andy Webster Very Happy

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Post  greg Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:20 am

looks good. well put. you have been busy.

i'm not 100% on this but does the Lamprey come under the same protection as the eel Exclamation
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Post  John Dinnewell Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:50 am

Andy new bait company on the scene called Gadda baits, they are just in the process of setting their website up, in the meantime contact Leigh on 07707 949407 for anything you need.

Not the cheapest but the quality is superb compared to what is out there.

All the best
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Post  Steve French Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:00 am

Good article Andy, Pollen may be worth a mention, when not vacuumed packed pop themselves up, a great bait.

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Post  Andy Webster Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:41 pm

greg wrote:looks good. well put. you have been busy.

i'm not 100% on this but does the Lamprey come under the same protection as the eel Exclamation

Cheers Greg

I found a bit of info on the lamprey HERE

It mentions the following...

Due to declining numbers, the river lamprey is now given some protection. It is listed
in Annexes I(ia) and V(a) of the EU Habitats and Species Directive as a species of
community interest, whose conservation requires the designation of Special Areas of
Conservation, and in Appendix III of the Bern Convention, which permits some
exploitation of its population. It is a Species of Conservation Concern in the UK
Biodiversity Action Plan. There is no Red Data Book for fish in Great Britain, nor is
this species listed in the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act, but the species is
considered to be vulnerable.


I'd need ssome help on figuring out what that means though Very Happy

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Post  Andy Webster Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:43 pm

John Dinnewell wrote:Andy new bait company on the scene called Gadda baits, they are just in the process of setting their website up, in the meantime contact Leigh on 07707 949407 for anything you need.

Not the cheapest but the quality is superb compared to what is out there.

All the best
John

Hi John

Nice to hear from you. Are you out on the boat again this year?

Thanks for the heads up. I will have a look out for Gadda baits.

Andy Very Happy

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Post  Andy Webster Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:44 pm

Steve French wrote:Good article Andy, Pollen may be worth a mention, when not vacuumed packed pop themselves up, a great bait.

Hi Steve

Pollen is a great shout, thanks for that one. I haven't used them myself though.

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Post  stubbo Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:16 pm

another good bait i have done well on is garfish cut into sections and had some good pike on sand eels the bigger sand eels called launce i think,,,,
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Post  fluffchucker Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:32 pm

John Dinnewell wrote:Andy new bait company on the scene called Gadda baits, they are just in the process of setting their website up, in the meantime contact Leigh on 07707 949407 for anything you need.

Not the cheapest but the quality is superb compared to what is out there.

All the best
John

I just got the pricelist via Facebook for Gadda;-
Lamprey: 4 sections £3.50
Lamprey: 5 whole fish £7.40
Browns: 5 medium (6/8") £4.95
Browns: 4 large (8/10") £4.95
Rainbows: 5 small (4/6") £3.75
Rainbows: 5 medium (6/8") £4.25
Rainbows: 3 large (8/10") £3.50
Herring: 5 medium (6/8") £2.00
Herring: 4 large (8/10") £2.40
Mackerel: 5 joeys £2.75
Mackerel: 4 tails £2.25
Mackerel: 5 medium (8/10") £2.95
Mackerel: 4 large (12"+) £3.95
Blueys: 5 £4
Mini blueys: 5 (8/10") £2.45
Roach: 4 medium (5/7") £2.45
Roach: 3 large (8/10") £3
Bream: 1 (11"+) £1.85

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Post  John Dinnewell Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:18 am

Andy Webster wrote:
John Dinnewell wrote:Andy new bait company on the scene called Gadda baits, they are just in the process of setting their website up, in the meantime contact Leigh on 07707 949407 for anything you need.

Not the cheapest but the quality is superb compared to what is out there.

All the best
John

Hi John

Nice to hear from you. Are you out on the boat again this year?

Thanks for the heads up. I will have a look out for Gadda baits.

Andy Very Happy

Hi Andy yes still blanking on the rivers via boat and bank fishing but still love it.

Will no doubt see you at the convention.

All the best and tight lines
John

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Post  Andy Macfarlane Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:46 pm

Looks alright to me Andy. You go mad adding more examples of potential baits but for the novice, it gives them the right idea.

PS: Trout are game fish Andy... study
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Post  robh107 Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:08 pm

hi andy.... 1 sea bait i use is missing from the list.... whiting!! i've used them for as long as i can remember and on waters where the pike have seen just about everything else they can be devastating!
i've never seen them in tackle shops but i beach fish for cod and get alot of whiting as a bi-product, so instead of putting them back i just take them home and bung them in the freezer Wink
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Post  TheMacMagician Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:38 pm

Just rekindled my passion for Piking so really appreciated that article, thanks for the good read.


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Post  matt859 Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:57 am

I found a company that sells little mackerel 5-6" and they cast very well indeed. I had a scrapper 14.5 lb pike from Naseby at the weekend. Only problem now is I want to cast them even further than the 40 yds (10 rods lenghts) im getting at the moment. I use a simple running rig with the lead sliding on the mainline, would a change in set up help do you think?
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Post  nickcarpy Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:07 am

fix it on with a pva cable tie or pva tape/string..the cable ties are better and are from et tackle Very Happy
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Post  robh107 Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:35 am

matt859 wrote:I found a company that sells little mackerel 5-6" and they cast very well indeed. I had a scrapper 14.5 lb pike from Naseby at the weekend. Only problem now is I want to cast them even further than the 40 yds (10 rods lenghts) im getting at the moment. I use a simple running rig with the lead sliding on the mainline, would a change in set up help do you think?

what size leads are you using? i use a running set up with a 1oz to 1 1/2oz lead and i can comfortably hit 70-80 yards with the likes of mackerel and herring (small whole or halfs)........ if i try using 2oz+ then the distance i hit becomes less, i think this is because the weight of the bait has to fight more against the weight of the lead and they hinder each other during the cast, whereas when using the lighter lead the bait leads the rig and lead out in flight.
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Post  matt859 Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:16 am

Thanks for the replies so far. I like the look of those pva ties for helping keep the bait on, my issue isnt really with keeping the bait attached its more to do with distance, but that said with greater distance comes more force so using the ties would be an advantage. I use a 2oz casting lead and am currently toying with putting the whole lot inside an oiled up pva bag, i guess the resistance of the bag is cutting down my distance, I will give a lighter lead a try, I know I can wack out a boilie further with a suitable sized lead better than I can with a big lead. Perhaps with the added confidence of the cable ties and a smaller lead that wont overtake the bait I will compress the rod better. will give both a try and report back.
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Post  robh107 Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:33 am

give the lighter lead a go without the tie as well as with mate.... it doesnt matter if the lead flies back up the line a bit during the cast as long as your bite indication is good anyway, and i have a feeling that using the tie will cut distance down a bit, although i cant say for certain because i've never had the need to try it.
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Post  robh107 Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:35 am

robh107 wrote:give the lighter lead a go without the tie as well as with mate.... it doesnt matter if the lead flies back up the line a bit during the cast as long as your bite indication is good anyway, and i have a feeling that using the tie will cut distance down a bit, although i cant say for certain because i've never had the need to try it.
oops sorry mate my bad i'm half asleep this morning lol.... thought you was talking about tying the lead to the trace swivel with pva.
tying the bait to the hooks with pva is a good idea Very Happy
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