Leadcore for pike

Just read the article in AT about fishing that masticating water (bad joke - lol) and they were saying that when they were ledgering they were using a few feet of leadcore from the mainline to the swivel of the trace carp style.

I think i must be missing something - surely if you tighten down to the lead as normal then the line will be coming off of the bottom anyway, leadcore or not - unless you are fishing a slightly slack line which surely means that deep hooking/poor bite registration is a problem?

Anyone agree or can tell me what i'm missing out on here...

how much weight is in 2 feet of leadcore

dunno for sure but can't be more than about 1/4 oz in my opinion - why do you ask?

would it settle on the deck keeping the line tight in still water with a clean bottom..

greg wrote:would it settle on the deck keeping the line tight in still water with a clean bottom..

I guess it's possible, but when i am fishing i like to have a very tight line and very sensitive bobbins so that the lightest of takes registers. Might have to set a rod up and check it on a local water i can see the bottom of...

just had a look on ebay, no weights on any of them. you'll just have to give it a try tootall.

I read that same article Rob and was thinking the same thing mate!

They said it was to keep the line down and it was kinder on their hands when pulling in the fish by hand and unhooking them in the margins.
I can understand the 2nd point but as for the 1st point, are Pike really that shy you need to hide your main line?
If they were that wary I wouldn't be using 40lb trace wire as thick as a matchstick!

the cortland i have weighs in at 1/4 of an ounce for a ten foot length

so the point of leadcore is.....

edit just foound this in the hope it helps explain leadcore for the non user

http://www.aussiefly.com.au/line_weights.htm

i dont really see any point in using leadcore unless fly fishing in deep water.....
you may as well use a backlead instead if you want to pin line to the bottom.

robh107 wrote:i dont really see any point in using leadcore unless fly fishing in deep water.....
you may as well use a backlead instead if you want to pin line to the bottom.

-agreed totaly even then ive cast out at distance had line bites moved baits in closer had result i pin the line down when fishing a waterway or mega fished waters

lead core has its uses in piking for trolling on deep water venues

as for pinning your line down its pointless for me

i use floating braid

what wrong with leadcore,in shallow water fishing slack line?surely better to pin line down than it up in water?suppose you guys never seen/used extra heavy leadcore then,ive used leacore for fishing on/over sharp gravel bars/areas
ect so dont get cut offs,what do you lot use/think its ued for??

nickcarpy wrote:what wrong with leadcore,in shallow water fishing slack line?surely better to pin line down than it up in water?suppose you guys never seen/used extra heavy leadcore then,ive used leacore for fishing on/over sharp gravel bars/areas
ect so dont get cut offs,what do you lot use/think its ued for??

I see the points your raising Nick, but slack line fishing is a no no for Pike as far as I'm concerned!

when i fish slack lines,i allways watch as a float,you be surprissed our much bite any detection you get before you allarm goes off.any movement,any twitch iam on it,safe way if you are watching but if you dont,then yes dont bother

nickcarpy wrote:when i fish slack lines,i allways watch as a float,you be surprissed our much bite any detection you get before you allarm goes off.any movement,any twitch iam on it,safe way if you are watching but if you dont,then yes dont bother

sorry mate but thats just asking for a deep hooked pike

nickcarpy wrote:when i fish slack lines,i allways watch as a float,you be surprissed our much bite any detection you get before you allarm goes off.any movement,any twitch iam on it,safe way if you are watching but if you dont,then yes dont bother

I think thats fair comment - now i've had chance to think about this a bit more i was thinking i might use this method b ut only on the one rod like nick has described. No way with two or 3 though like the guys in the article were....

was out other day ,me an adie ad 8 runs,7 fish landed ,no deep hooked pike...proof there but if there was a chance i think how i was fishing then i would not do it if it harmed them..think your thinking iam fishing a totally slack line?no if you fish a heavy leadcore it pins it down on the bottem,the lead,the extra weight of lead core is better.slack lines are ok if yo watch,ie remember the old swingtip?

fish two rods next to each other

nickcarpy wrote:was out other day ,me an adie ad 8 runs,7 fish landed ,no deep hooked pike...proof there but if there was a chance i think how i was fishing then i would not do it if it harmed them..think your thinking iam fishing a totally slack line?no if you fish a heavy leadcore it pins it down on the bottem,the lead,the extra weight of lead core is better.slack lines are ok if yo watch,ie remember the old swingtip?

i see what you mean nick.... my apologies

nickcarpy wrote:when i fish slack lines,i allways watch as a float,you be surprissed our much bite any detection you get before you allarm goes off.any movement,any twitch iam on it,safe way if you are watching but if you dont,then yes dont bother

how canyou slack line with a float?

and the leadcore extra heavy it only comes in two weights from most manufacterers

once you get past the lighter strains you get the extra lead any extra weight is then provided by the braid

hence why my cortland in 36 is 120 grains (i think form memeory) and the 18 weighs in at 110 grains

both per 10ft section

and please dont tell me carp companies use different leadcores as once you see teh big spools you soon see who uses which manufacterer for there product

its like the esp flouro verse drennan fly flouro

esp 20m costs a tenner for 50m of the fly stuff in the same strain it cost about 7 quid (i remember the esp was almost double the money of the fly stuff but the prices there ar emade up)

i think he means as you would with a float mate

out of interest what leadcore are you using?

and howmuch is it setting you back

best carp branded ones i tried before learning this lesson was the carp r us on the nash stuff

you can fish a slack line to a float,you can just watch you line for detection an you can get extra heavy leadcore,iam happy fishing my way,its never harmed any fish an will keep doing so,anyone who can proof differant are welcome to!i gave my views on leadcore an stick by themso if anyone wants to do ditterant to them ,let them.

robh107 wrote:i think he means as you would with a float mate

well the float will lift the lead core so it renders it pointless

and the theory behind that..

having a length of extra line away from your lead, shot bullet etc does what?

you may as well fish with a float 10 feet overdepth