Spider Wire Braid

paddy pike on Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:46 pm

Just respooled my reels with some 30Lb braid, "Spider wire" I only use this because Gordie Burton recomended it and was sponsered buy the company when it first came out, I have used heavy Braid in the past, But just fancy'd somthing lighter, Does any one else use this braid, or poundage

greg on Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:40 pm

yes, 50lb for lures. once the coating comes of it the trouble begins. no good for trolling at all, unwinds its self. not as good as i thought it was going to be ....

paddy pike on Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:33 pm

greg wrote:yes, 50lb for lures. once the coating comes of it the trouble begins. no good for trolling at all, unwinds its self. not as good as i thought it was going to be ....

Had this problem mysel but there is a realy easy cure or it, I dont know if you can buy them, Its an old aris thing, But it works, Stops 99.99% of twisting in the line and also stops knotting from happening, I will go and make one and take a piccy for you,

paddy pike on Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:56 pm

Ok here is the picture, You could buy these for about a £1 note in the 60s and they do the job well,

This order, Swivel clip link, Then the wire trace, Then another swivel clip link, Then a piece of plastic cut to this shape and two holes drilled, One in either end, Then another swivel clip link to tie your braid to, Jobs a goodun, Innit, The salmo Perch lure is about three inch in length, And i usualy make the wire about fourteen inches,

greg on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:20 pm

a vain, still does it with one on paddy. not as bad but its there.

paddy pike on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:39 pm

greg wrote:a vain, still does it with one on paddy. not as bad but its there.

I would have thought that the thinner the braid the more it would happen, I will ask around and see if anyone knows what the cure is,

greg on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:48 pm

i think its just the brand. i put some on a small mulitplyer its doin ok with jerkbaits. but you can buy better braid than spiderwire.

Alex Makk on Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:08 pm

with me being on a £20week budget on tackle, I dont get these braids priced at £15+ i usually go on ebay and find some cheaper stuff made in china and shipped to England. i once got a 300mts spool at 50lb off there for £2.50.......with free P&P , i like the stuff very well, but the down turn is after about 8 sessions with it the colour starts to fade...

Lefty on Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:03 pm

You'll find that the colour fades on all braid due to the fibres used in it's construction. They don't absorb colours very well at all and the colour just tends to sit on top of the fibres.

The first time I used my Power Pro braid, I noticed a colour difference at the end of the session which was only about 5-6 hours. It's been on my reels now for about a year and is still green but no where near as green as it first was.

Andy Macfarlane on Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:06 am

Oh dear. Spiderwire braid. It's not good Paddy. I'd use it for hanging tomatoes or putting pictures up or something.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I'm only letting you know. It goes fuzzy easily, weakens considerably and has been known on a number of occasions to break randomly.

I avoid it like the plague. Seen what it looked like after moderate use and that was enough.

paddy pike on Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:15 pm

Andy Macfarlane wrote:Oh dear. Spiderwire braid. It's not good Paddy. I'd use it for hanging tomatoes or putting pictures up or something.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I'm only letting you know. It goes fuzzy easily, weakens considerably and has been known on a number of occasions to break randomly.

I avoid it like the plague. Seen what it looked like after moderate use and that was enough.

What brand do you actualy use Andy, And do you use 50Lb as an all rounder,

Andy Macfarlane on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:42 pm

Power Pro and Cortland Spectron.

Power Pro is the more user friendly because of it's diameter and it's well strong.

Spectron is slightly thicker but it's heavily underrated. I couldn't tell you what it breaks at but I've pulled enough lures out of branches, straightened enough hooks and even handlined a shopping trolley up a dam wall with it.

noodle on Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:15 am

spiderwire almost put me off braid when i 1st gave it a go.

the unepected breaks andy you can make it happen easily enough, take a 10 foot length and tie it of between a post and something you can safely pull on, then pull it to break.
when it has snapped try the two pieces that your left with, the shock of breaking will have weakened the braid between the two ends (think snag and reel Crying or Very sad

) and see how easy they break now.

useles stuff

penn dyneema
power pro
daiwa
all do top braids at reasonable prices

nickcarpy on Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:10 am

Berkley whiplash gets my vote Very Happy

paddy pike on Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:38 pm

I have come to a conclution, I think i am using braid that is to light, And is easely snapped, A problem i have encountered on more than one ocation, So thanks for all the info on what you use, And what strength of line, But if the stuff Andy uses can bring a shopping trolly in, Then i think i will try and get some Spectron, But i think it will have to be 50Lb breaking strain ? I think

adie1200 on Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:08 pm

I use 50lb Power Pro and find it to be Excellent Very Happy

It casts lures better than 15lb mono any day and is as strong as you will ever need Wink

Adie

paddy pike on Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:42 pm

adie1200 wrote:I use 50lb Power Pro and find it to be Excellent
It casts lures better than 15lb mono any day and is as strong as you will ever need

Adie

Do you buy from a local tackle shop or does every one buy on line nowadays Very Happy

Lefty on Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:43 pm

I got my Power Pro from Ebay USA and paid around the same price for a 300mt reel of it as you would for a 100mt reel over here. Very Happy

noodle on Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:03 pm

nickcarpy wrote:Berkley whiplash gets my vote

why?

its one im not fond of very thick and ropey compared to the ones above.

ill do photos in a bit to compare a few of them in 80lb

its the best way to show why you should buy braid by diameter

nickcarpy on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:07 pm

well i only fish the 35 lb one,80lb is towing rope lol Very Happy

noodle on Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:10 am

penn in 80lb is 0.51mm
daiwa is similar but i cant find a spool at the moment
power pro is .43mm in 80lb
and the whiplash in 80lb is stated as 0.24mm which is odd as its far thicker than all the others

having problems uploading the pic so ill get round to it tomorow

nickcarpy on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:34 am

the 35lb is same thicknness as 4lb line i think,will get spools out an look

essox_lucius1 on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:52 am

i use power pro in 30lb does the job for me

paddy pike on Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:41 am

essox_lucius1 wrote:i use power pro in 30lb does the job for me

Do you not suffer with line break, Or snap off's, As i do with the Spider Wire, I allways thought 30Lb breaking strain was heavy enough, But the majority of Pikers seem to go for 50Lb+, Sh/te ime confusing myself now hahaha

nickcarpy on Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:43 am

i think its more 50lb for lure fishing?could be wrong?

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