Dragon carp

mr makk
cheap tackle is what it says it is ok and if it breaks who gives a dam.
I am looking through some of my gear and i told adie i was going to offer it cheap to just the lads or lasses on hear first but they must have a reasonable amount of posts (not going to let it go to first time posters just after bargins)
i use a daiwa tdr reel for waggler fishing but prefer my small shimano (old and faithfull) seem to get a lot of tangles with tdr , but because it cost a bit i use it stupid i know.

i will sort out a rod possibly a nash or fox warrior and (possibly a reel shimno bait runner and you can have it for peanuts (£50 quid) I will load it with line for you fox steel camo.

Thats my good deed for xmas (Just call me robin ???)

My son in law bought a two rod carp kit from dragon i think the pod broke first time out.
he has to leave it set up and it will not take apart now.
the alarms were laughable after first day they were a pathetic squeak so he had to buy more.
the reel on one dropped to bits has he struck at a take.
I like fox gear to me good quality and well made but a bit over priced

I may try leftys trick tell our lass that because of my stents i need to now buy hardy or greys gear because it would put less strain on me

Bazz wrote:Talk about bad backs, in 1996 I was competing in a cyclocross race in Sherwood Forest one Saturday & went over the handle bars on a steep drop-off! I broke T4 vertebrae in my spine..
2 weeks in Hospital & a Titanium "Methdian Rig" in my back, 6 months off work on statutory sick pay I got into debt & sold my then fishing gear (including some Piking) to my work mates..
These days I'm pretty well OK although i can always feel a "stiff sensation" between my shoulders, the nerves were damaged when the surgeon stuck in the scalpel!
I do like my reclining fishing chair, I can soon get backache, so Lefty, I know how you feel..

Thanks Bazz, one of the few people who know how it feels. Schmorl's Nodes is a degenerative condition that can (if you are one of the unlucky ones) disable you. It started to give me trouble back in 1984 and effectively ended my rugby days. Was only properly diagnosed in 2001 after constantly pestering my doc for referral to a back specialist. At one point the cheeky bugger thought the pain was imaginary. And he gave me wrong tablets at a later date that caused intestinal bleeding. Needless to say, I'm no longer at his practice.

Anyway, aren't we getting off topic here?

MrMakk, seriously consider the offer from Kell. It isn't much more than the kit you've seen for sale on Ebay, and is worth the little extra if you can afford it.

done him a better one

It does sound a very good offer, Alex...

i agree with duane, go for the best you can afford at the time, but as ive said before, the most expensive stuff is not always the best. find what you want in a tackle shop and then find it on ebay. ive used ebay for 4 years now and never had any problems trust it 100%, but only buy from uk sellers, and some usa sellers for lures.
had a bit of stuff off dragoncarp, and nothing lasted more than 6 months, thats if it made it past the first session. it looks tempting for the price, but in the long run you will be worse off, because it just will not last.

the price of decent gear now is amazing

for what 50 quid you can buy a rod that only a few years ago the level ofperformance offered by that rod would have cost a few hundred quid, reels well okuma have turned the market upside down in my opinion with reels costing 20-30 quid blowing top flight shimano's away

alarms anyone been doing this since the late 80's early 90's? nuff said the price quality avaialbility is just unreal now.

to buy a usable (on just about any water in the uk)multi rod (two) set up now with all your basic terminal gear and ancilliary items can now cost you less than 200 quid yes ok it is a fair chunk of money but go back and see what it was like a decade ago and then do the same again

oh lures not much point in saying anything about those i had a choice as a young un of shakespere daiwa or abu lures well a big s fat d?? tobys and hilo's. now ......

just had a look on ebay, and these are the rods that i am now using.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SHAKESPEARE-PIKE-ROD-12FT-3LB-T-C-PIKE-RRP-45-00_W0QQitemZ120488893726QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL?hash=item1c0db29d1e

noodle wrote:the price of decent gear now is amazing

for what 50 quid you can buy a rod that only a few years ago the level ofperformance offered by that rod would have cost a few hundred quid, reels well okuma have turned the market upside down in my opinion with reels costing 20-30 quid blowing top flight shimano's away

alarms anyone been doing this since the late 80's early 90's? nuff said the price quality avaialbility is just unreal now.

to buy a usable (on just about any water in the uk)multi rod (two) set up now with all your basic terminal gear and ancilliary items can now cost you less than 200 quid yes ok it is a fair chunk of money but go back and see what it was like a decade ago and then do the same again

oh lures not much point in saying anything about those i had a choice as a young un of shakespere daiwa or abu lures well a big s fat d?? tobys and hilo's. now ......

On the topic of reels, i have obviously been looking as i am once again in the market for tackle.......... how do you guys feel about the Okuma range of baitrunner and baitcasters??? Traditionally they were regarded as entry level tackle and generally of poor quality - has this changed?
.......must admit, the prices look good!!!

duane i have three of the top of my head all baitrunner ones the little one 030 size interceptor has survived everything ive thrown at it over 6/7 years (ish) of hard use this includes a fall down a rock face attached to a rod in a quiver with an umbrella banksticks other rods etc and this reel took the brunt of the fall and bar a bit off missing paint is fine wish i could say the same of the shimanos that died that day.

multiplier wise i cant comment on the okumas some people i have a fair bit of respect for have slated them

overall entry level gear definatly but thats just the price if you ignore the fashonistas who love daiwa shimano top end reels for no reason other than they are daiwa shimano then you cant beat them

i just bought a Okuma baitcaster, and i can say i am very happy with it so far also got 1 of there bait runners, had it about 5 years and never had a problem with it. i would buy them again

Well I have to agree with you lads...tackle is at a fair price nowdays

well been in today and they have some wychwood agitator baits at £40 (£39.99)................................but i have what i want........(rod wise)
worth taking a look in/ringing

dragon carp gear my mate buys its ok stuff just heavy rods today are outstanding at the £30-£50 range . okuma have took a large piece of the pie and there reels a great value for money though 1 did freeze up on me in adverse weather while my other reels where fine

i use dragon carp kit and it serves me well i use two of the 2.75lb tc carp rods for my piking matched with two of the £10 bait runners and its all seen me through at least 6 years of abuse carping and now in2 piking